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:While the organized approach is admirable, the problem is Step 1, "Definition"; they simply are not going to be able to complete this section in any reasonable or meaningful manner, which render the rest moot. "Common understandings" is more fitting, and then you can cite whatever theoretician you please.
 
:While the organized approach is admirable, the problem is Step 1, "Definition"; they simply are not going to be able to complete this section in any reasonable or meaningful manner, which render the rest moot. "Common understandings" is more fitting, and then you can cite whatever theoretician you please.
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:To grossly oversimplify the root problem, the original meaning or definition is inextricably linked up with Church/State issues, or "the God question" as I refer to it from the late 18th century Enlightenment period.  At its root is faith vs rationalism, or atheism vs the Church, etc.  The so-called "right", defined as "traditional interests" meant the Church & monarchy who ruled by [[Divine Right]].  With 20th century fascism a need arose to define certain Socialists, atheists, and othe anti-God elements as "right wing", which PF Fox never stops refering to.  So it's a redefinition of the term that we're talking about.  No longer does one have to be faith-based or God fearing to be defined as right-wing, you can mold your hatred of God & the Church to anyone you despise. In fact, it really doesn't matter what your political views are, since the definition is left wing = good guy, freedom loving, and for the betterment of humanity, whereas right wing = pro oppression.  So if they don't like you, voila, you are a right wing bigot (leftists, by definition, cannot be bigots).
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:To grossly oversimplify the root problem, the original meaning or definition is inextricably linked up with Church/State issues, or "the God question" as I refer to it from the late 18th century Enlightenment period.  At its root is faith vs rationalism, or atheism vs the Church, etc.  The so-called "right", defined as "traditional interests" meant the Church & monarchy who ruled by [[Divine Right]].  With 20th century fascism a need arose to define certain Socialists, atheists, and other anti-God elements as "right wing", which PF Fox never stops refering to.  So it's a redefinition of the term that we're talking about.  No longer does one have to be faith-based or God fearing to be defined as right-wing, you can mold your hatred of God & the Church to anyone you despise. In fact, it really doesn't matter what your political views are, since the definition is left wing = good guy, freedom loving, and for the betterment of humanity, whereas right wing = pro oppression.  So if they don't like you, voila, you are a right wing bigot (leftists, by definition, cannot be bigots).
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:We've seen something very similiar regarding Holocaust denial. Holocaust denial had been around since 1945 when Herman Goering argued in his defesne at Nuremberg it was "technically impossible".  In the late 70s David Irving did not deny the Holocuast occured as Goering had done, he denied Hitler order it.  So the term was redefined to apply to persons who did not deny the Holocaust occured.  Now the term "Holocaust denier" can be applied to anyone, since denying the Holocaust occured is nolonger a prerequisite to earn the label.  This in fact is the waht the Wikipedia/Daniel Brandt dispute is all about (see [[Examples of Bias in Wikipedia]], #43).   
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:We've seen something very similiar regarding Holocaust denial. Holocaust denial had been around since 1945 when Herman Goering argued in his defense at Nuremberg it was "technically impossible".  In the late 70s David Irving did not deny the Holocuast occured as Goering had done, he denied Hitler order it.  So the term was redefined to apply to persons who did not deny the Holocaust occured.  Now the term "Holocaust denier" can be applied to anyone, since denying the Holocaust occured is nolonger a prerequisite to earn the label.  This in fact is the waht the Wikipedia/Daniel Brandt dispute is all about (see [[Examples of Bias in Wikipedia]], #43).   
    
:Ed, can we go ahead and move [[Political spectrum]] to [[Political spectrum theory]]?  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 17:02, 10 April 2007 (EDT)
 
:Ed, can we go ahead and move [[Political spectrum]] to [[Political spectrum theory]]?  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 17:02, 10 April 2007 (EDT)
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