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| − | I got [[User:Conservative]]'s scam figured out - how he manipulates page views to promote himself. I have the records, data, and documentary evidence going back months. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 04:11, August 15, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | :Please first respond to my email I sent to you four days ago. I also have another project to finish first soon. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 16:40, August 15, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | ::Okay; four days ago [[User:Conservative]] started [[trolling]] the whole email group nonstop for 48 hours. I lost 2 days. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 17:02, August 15, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | :::I assume he left me out of the discussion? After all, I said that you could tell him to troll me instead of you. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 17:21, August 15, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | ::::Yes he did. It's a series of 82 personal attacks and gossip spammed over 4 discussion threads addressed to me, Andy, Brian, Telling and others who would probably rather not be involved in User:Conservative's personal problems. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup>
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| − | ::17 years ago User:Conservative & AceMcWicked got into a contest to control the #1 Most Popular article page (behind MPR) with robots. From there, you can influence and control Google results. User:Conservative had more time, so he eventually won the contest. However, the [[Barack Hussein Obama]] remains the Most Popular page on Conservapedia, averaging about 150 organic hits daily. But User:Conservative ran up his two entries, [[Atehism]] & [[Homosexual agenda]] with 3 million more hits so that it could never be caught.
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| − | ::17 years later, User:Conservative regularly monitors the Obama entry, then ''adds'' slightly more hits via robots to [[Atheism]] to keep it in tandem with Obama, and slightly above. When you experience 504 Gateway Timeouts, that is when User:Conservative is running robots. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 17:15, August 15, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | :::This is what is commonly called a p*ssing contest, in internet parlance. User:Conservative and AceMcWicked got into a p*ssing contest to control [[Conservapedia]] Google results, with Ace pushing [[Barack Hussein Obama]], [[Adolf Hitler]], and [[List of dictators]]. User:Conservative pushed [[Atheism]], [[Homosexual Agenda]], [[Homosexuality and Parasites]], [[Homosexuality and Anal Cancer]], and [[Atheism and obesity]]. User:Conservative eventually won the contest and Ace gave up (although Ace did make a reappearance some months ago to push Hitler past [[Wikipedia]] by 5,000 hits when I started talking about this in various forums when the Wikipedia article finally dethroned Hitler after more than a decade). Conservapedia has never recovered from the damage done. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 18:00, August 15, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | :::This past week, after being exposed here, [[user:Conservative]] has held the [[Atheism]] article at 5 daily page views below the [[Barack Hussein Obama]] article. Of coarse, he can always let it go a few days and rack up 400 page views in a single day as he did the week before. He thinks we all just fell out of a coconut tree. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 23:49, August 22, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | ::::Another illustration: Yesterday after being exposed for holding the counts down, [[Barack Hussein Obama]] got 89 hits, and he ran the [[Atheism]] article up to 91 hits. He's getting more desperate for losing his grip on the site every day. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 13:29, August 25, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | ::::::Of course not. They are all fraudulent. And have been so for at least 15 years.
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| − | ::::::He has persistently lied on talk pages, in email discussion groups, and in mainspace articles he created about the supposed "popularity" of his creations. In doing so, he has suppressed the legitimate contributions of Prof. Jensen, Andy, me, you, and multiple other editors who have quit.
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| − | ::::::For example, no way are the various articles he's created about anal sex, [[bestiality]], or fat atheists on a [[conservative]] website more popular than the [[Phyllis Schlafly]] article. That's just one glaring example. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 13:46, August 25, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | :::::::His obsession with anal sex is certainly... ''interesting''. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Monday, 21:32, August 25, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | ::::::::Just as he has kept [[Atheism]] and [[Homosexual agenda]] in tandem with each other for more than 15 years, he has promoted these two articles and kept them in tandem with each other, well above much more deserving articles with organic hits by other editors:
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| − | ::::::::[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 09:39, August 27, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | :::From June 1, 2024 to August 7, 2024 the [[Barack Hussein Obama]] article averaged 147 daily page views; [[User:Conservative]] then pushed his [[Atheism]] article up with robots to average 152 daily page views. This past week, after being called out, he's holding it at '''5 daily page views''' below Barack Obama.
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| − | :::He also has to spend some time keeping the [[Homosexual agenda]] article in tandem with [[Atheism]], now at a ratio of about 6:1. In May 2024, the [[Homosexual agenda]] trailed [[Atheism]] by only 17,000 page views, which it did for many months before that. Now they are separated by 60,000. If the Atheism article indeed is that popular, it would have buried the Homosexual agenda a long time ago.
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| − | :::He's been manipulating [[Conservapedia]] algorithms like this for 15 years. I've extended him [[good faith]] on the matter. But now that it is obvious he uses his [[SEO]] skills to promote himself, and not to optimize pages Andy or any other CP editor creates, it's time to speak up. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 00:08, August 23, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | :::::From August 21, 2024 to August 28, 2024, the [[Atheism]] article is recorded as 633 week-over-week page views or 90 hits per day; in the same timeframe the [[Barack Hussein Obama]] article registered 601 page views or 85 hits per day. A difference of '''5 hits per day'''. Note: He continued this years-long obsession with this fraud even after having been exposed here a week ago. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 04:26, August 30, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | ::::In reality. the [[Homosexual agenda]] article has only received about 15 daily page views since June 1, 2024 which '''''includes''''' the inorganic pushes from robots. This is closer to the real organic hits [[Atheism]] receives, about a dozen a day, not the 100+ he has claimed on the open wiki (even created mainspace pages about) and on email threads for years. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 00:21, August 23, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | :::::I don't intend on reading all that. Not that I care anymore either. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 21:38, August 24, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | ::::::Oh. It relates to everything we discussed when you first created the Slack group. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 22:18, August 24, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | :::::::I have better life matters to prioritize than reading your psychological projection screeds. How ironic of you to accuse me of "hanging out with [censored] too much" over at my publication when you pester Ken on a daily basis while I've almost entirely ceased interacting with him. Shamelessly hypocritical cretin, aren't you? —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 00:04, August 25, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | ::::::::Don't hide your light under a bushel; put it on a candlestick for all to see. [https://advesusbabylon substack. com/p/zin azism-and-christian-nationalism] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 00:15, August 25, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | :::::::::Heh, remember when I asked you to advertise my Substack on Conservapedia and you were hesitant/reserved? Now you went right ahead and did my bidding anyways. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 10:27, August 25, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | ::::::::::I never hesitated. I said it was a good idea to do reverse links to both sites. But now you did a Ken and deleted my comment. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 10:34, August 25, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | :::::::::::Hmm, my bad for the faulty email discussion recollection. Anyways, your comment was deleted for constituting inane lying projection. Unless you want your email removed from the subscription list and your account blocked, I don't recommend bringing up Conservapedian garbage over there again. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 13:00, August 25, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | :::::::::::After all, you certainly wouldn't want to miss an upcoming article on Substack—I will be exposing one massive elephant in the room to the Ukronazi story you've completely ignored. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 13:07, August 25, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | ::::::::::::I thought you could follow through on a train of thought, like ''why'' you created the Slack group. My bad. Go ahead, get carried away with a wind of doctrine, don't let me impede you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 13:12, August 25, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | :::::::::::::You actually helped me a great deal, by the way. I remember once you mentioning that modern Ukrainian Nazis are "old school" Nazis rather than neo-Nazis. This perfectly explains the kinship between "Jewish" Nazis and Ukrainian Nazis in addition to why "neo-Nazis," at least here in the U.S., often present themselves opposed to Ukronazis in the outset—"classic" Nazis are openly ..." After all, neo-Nazis are to "old school" Nazis more or less as neo-Marxists are to classic Marxists. Revisionist/degenerate "fanboy" movements always glorify their idols as what they never truly were, for one because they cannot comprehend and/or accept the possibility that the socialist yokels they venerate were nothing more than Anglo-Masonically controlled puppets on behalf of (Johannite) Jesuitism. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 13:20, August 25, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | ::::::::::::::I'd phrase it this way: American [[neo-Nazi]]s and [[Antifa]] are just wannabees compared to their [[European]] counterparts. They sometimes resemble, and sometimes differ, from real [[Nazi]]s and genuine [[Antifascist]]s (remember, one can be an antifascist without being "[[communist]]". This has always been the case). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 16:05, August 25, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | :::::::::::::::Modern "Antifa" is a joint brainchild of Communism and neo-Marxism inspired along the lines of Jesuitic liberation theology. Neo... were jointly controlled by the ADL and FBI in the previous century and to this day are almost certainly the tools of Freemasonic Anglo-American intelligence agencies. They serve Zionist objectives of ostensibly tarnishing Palestinian human rights activists in that those neo-Nazi degenerates portray themselves supporting Palestinians, just as how, '''[[Special:Diff/1907752|as you said]]''', Nick Fuentes serves globalist objectives of discrediting Putin by seeming to support Putin concurrent to his own neo-Nazi/alt-right credentials. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Monday, 21:31, August 25, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | ::::::::::::::::Take a step back, and look at ''how'' intelligence agencies have operated by whatever nation or entity at any time in history (going back thousands of years) and ''why'' they exist. You'll soon discover just how really simplistic, naive, and ideological Americans are.
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| − | :::::::::::::::::There is somewhat of a historical "precedent" here (though the analogy is not perfect, I will admit): the ''Reichskonkordant''. The Catholic Centre Party (''Zentrum'') was the last organized bulwark comprising a plenteous "liberal" democratic opposition to Hitler. However, the pact between right-wing clerical fascist (and later Nazi Party official) von Papen and Eugenio Pacelli (later "Pope Pius XII"), concurrent with the dissolution of Zentrum, handed the ultramontane fascist-reactionary faction over to the Nazis while leaving the liberal-democratic faction of political Catholicity without a platform to pose a formidable blockade to Hitler. Leo H. Lehmann's ''[https://archive.org/details/LeoHerbertLehmanBehindTheDictators Behind the Dictators]'' (1942) explains a bit of it, and probably Edmond Paris's ''[https://archive.org/details/secret-history-of-the-jesuits-1983-edmund-paris The Secret History of the Jesuits]'' (1983) as well. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Monday, 22:36, August 25, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | ::::::::::::::::::Okay, I'll look at all that stuff (cross my heart and hope to die). Now here's something you can do for me: Today [[LaRouche]]'s widow came up [https://youtu.be/g0KFs0cxcU4 on autofeed on a show I regularly watch]. Perhaps' you can review it and report back. Thanks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 22:47, August 25, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | :::::::::::::::::::I have a massive long-awaited Substack article to compile, develop, proofread, and publish ideally very soon. Now I've got to spend nearly an hour reviewing a video at your request to reciprocate my extensively analysis on it, after you troll my Substack, persistently ignore my points on dialectical cycling, and refuse to restore my TMP comments removed by a bad-faith Judeonazi liberal-fascistic censorshipmongering infiltrator? Oh well, I'll (try to) be longsuffering concurrent with the spirit of forgiveness: perhaps sometimes within tomorrow I will look at that Zepp-LaRouche video and relay you my impressions. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Monday, 23:14, August 25, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | When you created the Slack group about October of 2020, one of the first things you asked was why Andy allows [[User:Conservative]] to get away with so many violations of [[Conservapedia:Commandments and Guidelines]]. I pointed to the fact that his two creations, [[Atheism]] and [[Homosexual agenda]] each recorded over 7,000,000 page views. Today the [[Atheism]] article stands at 7,197,449 views; 60,000 of those page views, or 30% of the increase since October 2020, have been registered in just the past 120 days. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 03:33, August 25, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | :I don't care. You're wasting your time screeching this to me. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 10:26, August 25, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | ::::[Let me correct the math on the above statement: It is 60,000 minus the 17,000 that pre-existed, or he ''added'' 43,000 to the Atheism article over the Homosexual agenda during the past 120 days, about 22%. Remember, both articles already had over 7,000,000 hits as recorded in the Slack group four years ago when the Slack group started. I'd be happy to dig it out and [[spam]] it a half dozen times into his [[trolling]] email threads to document what a liar and [[fraud]] he is.
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| − | ::::In summary: The [[Atheism]] article received ''less than'' 136,000 in 3 1/2 years; User:Conservative [[inflated]] it to 197,000 over the past 4 months.]
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| − | I'm glad you uttered that "nakbas" plural propaganda, so you revealed your "palestinian" sources no less (or/and Hamas linked: Qatari/Iranian/Turkish sites or Iranian paid ones). It's also a fact: Islamic pro jihad CAIR lobby / Rashida propaganda referring to Arab "Palestinians" as if they were a separate "race." Too.
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| − | '''Mason, mason and mason''' - blah-blah. You don't even realize how weird it sounds each time your repeat that word. Though I'm an American, I can tell you, Israelis overwhelmingly don't even know what it means. Unless they will be googling it up.
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| − | Subject: On that LT hate. You can forward this.
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| − | LT won't do it to other religions. (Difference between LT and T is that T has been criticising those that link Hitler to his Christianity for a variety of reasons). 7.12.24
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| − | We don't want to think that your mind is (already) that corrupted to think that Chamberlin who blocked Jewish immigrants was a Z or that no. 1 anti Jewish "activist" A.H was pro Jewish National Home. Nevertheless, your hate passion leads you to type poison.
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| − | There is also no point in getting so personal on such a childish way you just did with RobS. We are putting up with your sh#t but not that personal on/with childish stuff. Dont destroy CP.
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| − | *This guy doesn't even realize how monstrous he is by dismissing the noble work of so many years of B'nai B'rith by fighting hatred.
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| − | LT's pseudo motto is, you have to find but a case or/and a (dubious) "source," in order to discredit an organization - which you have predestined to be dismissed because of your 'bigger plan' bigotry. And then to elevate the "found" "source"
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| − | Of course LT refused to answer how many Jews could have been saved had it not been for the White Paper by the Anglos pressured by ALL Arab leadership - radicals or moderate.
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| − | Note how he avoided all the facts, especially the sick joy of most Arabs in Palestine in 1942 as news about mass slaughter came about.
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| − | The new and "improved" line is that not only were the nazi Arab leadership "duped" by Anglos (masonic or not fill in the blanks) when Voice of the Arabs editor joined Goebbeles in 1933 for example, but the Anglos of 1920s are still "duping" the Hamas and PIJ terrorists today to add notes to their favorite book after Koran which is Mein Kampf and why Arafat had it or why Nasser distributed among his soldiers - you see? This "inspiration" by Arab leadership 1950s-2024 is actually by the 1920s Anglos, even each and every swastika the Arabs draw today. Better yet, the Anglos of the 1920s are duping the ever so "innocent" Neo nazis today to join palestine protests because they are "told" to by "da jooz."
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| − | After LT chose his devious road, he then went out shoppin' but couldn't find his despicable desired "finding," (yet). Remember his deceptive wording "cabal" play on an ancient study and how he tried to link it via a pathetic pick and choose and "connecting dots" he chose? Hey, not even the mason/mason/mason favorite blah-blah any more. Still, in search of dirt on Z. at least he came back from the flea market with so much joy dancing with his doggie bag. Yet when faced with reality of the complexity of Z the good vs the bad, he still did not back from his pre-designed lines which he "concluded" to be "intrinsic" to his satisfaction - before searching for dirt which of course he only always "stumbles upon accidentally."
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| − | (In his hotchpotch for loathing, he absurdly "connects" people, concepts and groups, apples and organges often even of opposites. His boring repeated language about true opposites often is: "two sides of the same coin").
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| − | Since 'nazi' is known as negative, he applies it only to Jews. This youngman, who, as was mentioned - barely turning drinking age in 2024/5, has managed to disseminate hatred what other neo Nazis did in years. Obsessive in using WW2 terminology but as slurs,</font> especially if he knows someone had relatives in family as survivors.<font size=4> Among other things, he wrote Holocaust in plural[https://archive.is/P8p6g/777e02931b108534e0914f0c960d8bc67f00207b.jpg], masking [https://archive.ph/cHgEX/e7ac4ce6fec7e3ace8e1a4a8c9cbbd302e446546.jpg] his venom as merely against "zionists," of course.</font>
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| − | What's baseness at his WW2 language, here comes a lowlife with exactly the <u>same bigotry that has set the core hatred in motion</u>, and talks about victims blaming only the deceiving end of Nazi Germany.
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| − | Racist '''L'''ying '''T'''roll also "decides" who is Jewish who is "not." He is excited only about those that go against other Jews.
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| − | [[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 09:58, September 20, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | ==More from distorting lying trolling upside down language sick style==
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| − | More from '''L'''ying '''T'''roll upside down language sick style:
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| − | Yes is No.<br>
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| − | Racism is "anti racist".<br>
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| − | Sharon is Hamaz.<br>
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| − | Trump is Harris.<br>
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| − | Harris is Trump.<br>
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| − | Good is bad.<br>
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| − | Nazis are "anti-nazi"...<br>
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| − | Iran is now Israel.<br>
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| − | Islam is Christianity.<br>
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| − | Real original true Nazis - not their fault <br>-
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| − | Their victims are so called "nazi".<br>
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| − | Right is left.<br>
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| − | [[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 09:23, September 20, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | :It's unfortunate to see, but Senior Admin [[User:Conservative]] has transformed [[Conservapedia]] from an information source to a forum for [[Nazi]] [[propaganda]] over the past 2 and a half years. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 10:25, September 20, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | *I hear Nazi-Nazi-fetish '''L'''ying '''T'''roll has been desperately sending frantic emails. Isn't he busy with the audience who cheer for every David Duke LaRouche speech?[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]])
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| − | :::[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 12:05, September 20, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | ::::Ps. 18:27 "...but bring low those whose eyes are haughty."[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]])
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| − | == Lying Troll - sockpuppeting on various forums, wikis ==
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| − | This[https://archive.ph/doPKu] proves '''L'''ying '''T'''roll has been engaging in SP on various sites. It's no wonder, in his overall dishonesty. .[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 18:10, September 18, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | [[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 01:07, September 22, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | <b>For a while, LT has been maliciously googling a combination of the Jewish religion and the word N. After "finding" weird "sources," he tried sneaky ways in editing pages along these 'dark' lines.
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| − | Before LT adopted (</b>[https://archive.is/P8p6g/777e02931b108534e0914f0c960d8bc67f00207b.jpg] Sep 8, 2024] <small>- saved by Dianne</small>) <b>the whitewashing of Nazis by Abbas about so called "50 holocaust[sic]s plural...
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| − | Weeks after publicity of Holocaust denier and liar </b>[https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-758091], with a long record [https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/09/13/mahmoud-abbas-jewish-problem/] <b>of rewrite of history - Mahmoud Abbas uttered the "Khazar" myth and was slammed all over.</b>
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| − | (Recently , as part of his long terrible record of provoking members one against the other, he has been desperately emailing falsehood, of course. So I clicked on LT's the (radical liberal) [[Haaretz]] link.
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| − | Secondly, it's different if one Jew mentions on another this N term. Just as blacks freely hurl that N word on other blacks. But not for this one with his young age and already with such a horrific history.</small>
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| − | [[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 08:21, September 22, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | :Call me an eternal optimist, but I see an opportunity here for User:LT to show some leadership. He could step up and apologize to the community for abusing editors on a matter he knows little about, and corrupted by media accounts. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 05:44, September 22, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | *Cheers RobS. But not if his "apology" is as "sincere" as weeks ago injecting WW2 terms as slurs ONLY to hurt people. Besides, he has already done do much damage with his poisonous nazi nazi fetish and warped "history" spamming, upside down terminology.[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 05:54, September 22, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | ::Here precisely is the problem: We have editors who know and understand ZERO about the so-called 'Israel-Palestinian dispute' or the 'Ukraine-Russia conflict', they try to educate themselves by popular media accounts, and spend months and months harassing other editors with their newly founded 'wisdom' and 'expertise'. They are essentially [[troll]]s, and do not understand ''why'' [[Conservapedia]] was founded. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 10:34, September 22, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | :::Speaking of misinformation. '''L'''ying'''T'''rolls repeated links --as pointed out by Telling-- on the M.E. conflict are either Iranian or Qatari linked, or of the radical left.
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| − | [[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 11:31, September 22, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | ::::AlJazeera/MiddleEastEye/TheNewArab are Qatar linked; any ".ir" and pressTV al-medayeen or Mehr among many others are Iranian (Islamic Fascist Republic influences are at ''Grayzone'' too, as even liberal WaPo exposed, hence, certainly any M.E. "data" there isn't reliable); any ".tr" and TRT or Anadolu is Turkey's. Next, he will pick an [[Islamism|Islamist]] Turkey's government linked site...as "source."
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| − | Proverbs: "He that covereth his transgressions shall not prosper; but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall obtain mercy."
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| − | [https://mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt2828.htm]. Emphasis on '''forsaketh'''.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 16:36, September 26, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | :Amen. Everything the New Testament says is said in the Old Testament. ''There is no new thing under the sun.'' [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 17:37, September 26, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | '''LT still used K. As a slur (via email like Sep 29 and Sep 30), knowing fully well my family history and grandparents linked to Holocaust survivors. '''
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| − | BTW, nazi fetish LT, '''L'''ying '''T'''roll has mentioned the word kapo 4 or five times these days. Some were good some where bad (that is an internal Jewish reckoning. There were many <u>Jews who converted to Christianity who betrayed the Jewish people by telling on them and inciting the government</u>), but not for a nazi Nazi-fetish-LT terrible boy) but all were under the Nazi threat.
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| − | But what's baseness is, here comes a lowlife <u>with exactly the same bigotry that has set the core hatred in motion</u>, and talks about victims. Who says that all relatives of my grandparents were murdered just in a camp where EVERY EMPLOYEE was under the nazi boot and not by fanatical bigots like LT? But just as Lying Troll cast Sulzberger as "zionist," he is all about hurting people. Not about facts or history.[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 09:12, September 20, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | :I am in agreement. The hurling of slurs at other users (for example, "[https://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Community_Portal/archive2#RobS_becoming_a_pawn_and_a_.22useful_idiot.22_of_an_atheist_website a useful idiot of an atheist website]") has a long and destructive history in [[Conservapedia]]. I have been trying to reform the process for more than a dozen years, to no avail.
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| − | :I am trying to negotiate to allow LT to be unblocked so that he can apologize and attempt to mitigate some of the damage he's done to the community. But as of now, he apparently wants to continue following the [[User:Conservative]]/[[Rationalwiki]] school of [[trolling]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 16:38, September 30, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | ::T. and you have been very patient when he embarked in July 2024 with his sick upside-down language, including weird tantrum like obsession in using the word "nazi" always when it's the contrary. Who convinced him that if he repeats his garbage again and again he won't lose more respect? Of course he was never about facts, truth, history or even being honest.[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 17:05, September 30, 2024 (EDT)
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| − | :::He learned that from Senior Admin [[User:Conservative]]: When called out on improper conduct and incivility, he doubles down on [[malicious trolling]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 17:55, September 30, 2024 (EDT)
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