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:Here's the NLD's Manifesto [http://www.ibiblio.org/obl/docs/NLDElectionManifesto1989.htm]. We should see what thier position on [[abortion]] before posting any of this. [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 18:58, 26 September 2007 (EDT) | :Here's the NLD's Manifesto [http://www.ibiblio.org/obl/docs/NLDElectionManifesto1989.htm]. We should see what thier position on [[abortion]] before posting any of this. [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 18:58, 26 September 2007 (EDT) | ||
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| + | ==Sept 2007 uprising== | ||
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| + | The viewpoint of Western liberals seems to be that any police shootings of unarmed civilians is absolutely inexcusable, no matter what the provocation is. | ||
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| + | Ref: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070926/ap_on_re_as/myanmar | ||
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| + | Even trying to grab weapons away from police - in response to being told to disperse - is not considered by liberals to be sufficient justification for police to "open fire" on a crowd. I guess the cops are supposed to "take the first bullet", i.e., suffer the first wounds. | ||
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| + | What I suspect is that it may be a strategy on the part of revolutionaries to attract sympathy by artfully provoking the police into -- seemingly -- firing the first shot in the battle. The aim is to blame the initiation of violence on the security forces. The idea that goading someone into harming you is itself a provocation of violence - and that the provocateur is not entirely innocent is never considered by liberals. They claim an unlimited right to provoke, to break rules. Nothing they do ever merits a severe response. | ||
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| + | I am not siding with the government, as several liberals have posted or emailed me privately. I am addressing one issue only: who started what, and is the force used by the various sides justified. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 19:05, 26 September 2007 (EDT) | ||
Revision as of 23:05, September 26, 2007
The source for the addition of info to this article is here: [1]. This could be a good place to start when adding basic info, then building it up to contain the current events happening now. Karajou 17:21, 26 September 2007 (EDT)
Nice work - I'll put some of my own stuff up tomorrow. Godspeed! --SayaSan
- Here's the NLD's Manifesto [2]. We should see what thier position on abortion before posting any of this. Rob Smith 18:58, 26 September 2007 (EDT)
Sept 2007 uprising
The viewpoint of Western liberals seems to be that any police shootings of unarmed civilians is absolutely inexcusable, no matter what the provocation is.
Ref: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070926/ap_on_re_as/myanmar
Even trying to grab weapons away from police - in response to being told to disperse - is not considered by liberals to be sufficient justification for police to "open fire" on a crowd. I guess the cops are supposed to "take the first bullet", i.e., suffer the first wounds.
What I suspect is that it may be a strategy on the part of revolutionaries to attract sympathy by artfully provoking the police into -- seemingly -- firing the first shot in the battle. The aim is to blame the initiation of violence on the security forces. The idea that goading someone into harming you is itself a provocation of violence - and that the provocateur is not entirely innocent is never considered by liberals. They claim an unlimited right to provoke, to break rules. Nothing they do ever merits a severe response.
I am not siding with the government, as several liberals have posted or emailed me privately. I am addressing one issue only: who started what, and is the force used by the various sides justified. --Ed Poor Talk 19:05, 26 September 2007 (EDT)