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: DaleHill, your quote omits the rest of the sentence: "there was no opposition between evolution and the doctrine of the faith about man and his vocation ... '''on condition that one did not lose sight of several indisputable points'''" Those "indisputable points" are utterly incompatible with the modern [[theory of evolution]] as it is promoted, believed and taught today. This is why the [[theory of evolution]] and an [[Old Earth]] erodes one's [[faith]]: it gets people to believe in things from which disbelief in [[Christianity]] logically follows. Promoters of these [[atheistic]] concepts will say the equivalent of "no, I didn't say '2+3=6', I said '2+2=5'!!!" The former plainly follows from the latter.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:37, 29 November 2007 (EST)
: DaleHill, your quote omits the rest of the sentence: "there was no opposition between evolution and the doctrine of the faith about man and his vocation ... '''on condition that one did not lose sight of several indisputable points'''" Those "indisputable points" are utterly incompatible with the modern [[theory of evolution]] as it is promoted, believed and taught today. This is why the [[theory of evolution]] and an [[Old Earth]] erodes one's [[faith]]: it gets people to believe in things from which disbelief in [[Christianity]] logically follows. Promoters of these [[atheistic]] concepts will say the equivalent of "no, I didn't say '2+3=6', I said '2+2=5'!!!" The former plainly follows from the latter.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:37, 29 November 2007 (EST)
::It further goes on to state: ''Pius XII stressed this essential point: if the human body takes its origin from pre-existent living matter the spiritual soul is immediately created by God'' i.e. accepting that humans evolved from pre-existent living matter, i.e other creatures, it is our souls that are created by God. He rejects theories of evolution that have no place for God. Not all theories of evolution, only those where God's creation of our souls is absent. God of course created the universe in which life evolved over billions of years.
::''The sciences of observation describe and measure the multiple manifestations of life with increasing precision and correlate them with the time line. The moment of transition into the spiritual cannot be the object of this kind of observation, which nevertheless can discover at the experimental level a series of very valuable signs indicating what is specific to the human being. But the experience of metaphysical knowledge, of self-awareness and self-reflection, of moral conscience, freedom, or again, of aesthetic and religious experience, falls within the competence of philosophical analysis and reflection while theology brings out its ultimate meaning according to the Creator's plans.''
::In such a time scale, the Pope, along with mainstream scientists, in all likelihood has no problem with the moon being 4.6 billion years old. The latter plainly follows from the former.
::[[User:DaleHill|DaleHill]] 10:57, 29 November 2007 (EST)
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