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::::I think that the conflict here is in what Thinker and Karajou are trying to explain - Thinker is assuming that the ancestors of the giraffe did not have long necks, and therefore simple oberving that giraffes now do have long necks is enough to satisfy step 1 of the Scientific Method and he can then continue to propose a hypothesis to explain it.  Karajou, on the other hand, believes that giraffes were created in their current form, in which case a net change in neck length over time would have to be observed before a hypothesis would be needed.  However, for this change to be observed, the timescale needed would be far greater than the length of time since the ToE was proposed.
 
::::I think that the conflict here is in what Thinker and Karajou are trying to explain - Thinker is assuming that the ancestors of the giraffe did not have long necks, and therefore simple oberving that giraffes now do have long necks is enough to satisfy step 1 of the Scientific Method and he can then continue to propose a hypothesis to explain it.  Karajou, on the other hand, believes that giraffes were created in their current form, in which case a net change in neck length over time would have to be observed before a hypothesis would be needed.  However, for this change to be observed, the timescale needed would be far greater than the length of time since the ToE was proposed.
 
[[User:PBowler|PBowler]] 14:17, 2 October 2009 (GMT + 1)
 
[[User:PBowler|PBowler]] 14:17, 2 October 2009 (GMT + 1)
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:::::I haven't read the lengthy thread above, but resorting to "more time" to explain things actually raises more questions than it answers.  One can add the all the time imaginable and heat will still not flow to a hotter place, water will still not flow uphill, and disorder still will not become more orderly.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:37, 1 September 2009 (EDT)
    
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