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Talk:Essay: Gallery of obese atheists (view source)
Revision as of 09:02, July 2, 2012
, 09:02, July 2, 2012→Seriously?: biblical position, Jesus vs Pharisees, which side are you going to pick?
[[File:Sun Tzu portrait.jpg|thumbnail|right|200px|"Subtle! Subtle! They become formless. Mysterious! Mysterious! They become soundless. Therefore, they are the masters of the enemy's fate." - [[Sun Tzu]] ]]
[[File:Sun Tzu portrait.jpg|thumbnail|right|200px|"Subtle! Subtle! They become formless. Mysterious! Mysterious! They become soundless. Therefore, they are the masters of the enemy's fate." - [[Sun Tzu]] ]]
::::David, do you understand the difference between fact and opinion? You certainly have provided no proof and evidence that I/we dislike obese people - none! :) Secondly, within reason people rightly like others who stick to their guns on matters and prior to User:Conservative's material on obesity and the atheism/homosexuality, User: Conservative did say that no identifying information would be give on us/me. :) Of course, it goes without saying that this policy will continue. :) [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 11:08, 30 June 2012 (EDT)
::::David, do you understand the difference between fact and opinion? You certainly have provided no proof and evidence that I/we dislike obese people - none! :) Secondly, within reason people rightly like others who stick to their guns on matters and prior to User:Conservative's material on obesity and the atheism/homosexuality, User: Conservative did say that no identifying information would be give on us/me. :) Of course, it goes without saying that this policy will continue. :) [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 11:08, 30 June 2012 (EDT)
===Biblical position===
Is the Bible really so strongly against overeating, as [[user:Conservative]] says?
Jesus only discusses the topic once, in Matthew Chapter 11 (and also as recounted in Luke), where he addresses accusations, presumably made by those killjoy Pharisees, that ''he himself'' was a glutton. He doesn't seem remotely troubled by the accusations, does not bother to deny or refute them, and seems to say that it doesn't really matter whether one chooses to be abstemious (like John the Baptist) or indulgent (like the Son of Man).
So I don't think [[user:Conservative]'s claim that "[t]he Bible is definitely not friendly to gluttony" really gives the whole story. And I would rather agree with Jesus than with the Pharisees, who presumably also thought there was a biblical basis for their own misguided finger-wagging.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 05:02, 2 July 2012 (EDT)