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Talk:John 1-7 (Translated) (view source)
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, 20:09, September 22, 2012→Strange change of perspective
:*I'm not against using punctuation - and I'm not ''per se'' against quotation marks. But I appreciate my ''Einheitsübersetzung'' which doesn't use them. In my opinion this helps with some more ambiguous parts like this one. Is Christ still speaking, or is it just a general statement?
:*I'm not against using punctuation - and I'm not ''per se'' against quotation marks. But I appreciate my ''Einheitsübersetzung'' which doesn't use them. In my opinion this helps with some more ambiguous parts like this one. Is Christ still speaking, or is it just a general statement?
:*Aschlafly, in your favor I assumed that you took this as a kind of general statement. But John doesn't use the first person until we have direct speech. This is a deliberate choice, please compare his style with the beginning of the Iliad or the Odyssey
:*Aschlafly, in your favor I assumed that you took this as a kind of general statement. But John doesn't use the first person until we have direct speech. This is a deliberate choice, please compare his style with the beginning of the Iliad or the Odyssey
:*If you take this as a part of Christ's speech, your translation becomes nonsensical: does Jesus include Himself in this ''we''? Shouldn't He use ''you''? But than it seems to be only about Nicodemus...
:*If you take this as a part of Christ's speech, your translation becomes nonsensical: does Jesus include Himself in this ''we''? Shouldn't He use ''you''? But then it seems to be only about Nicodemus...
:*John 3:11: ἀμὴν ἀμὴν λέγω σοι How does this fit into your statement that ''the Greek style had not developed that improvement in writing style, to the point of using awkward constructs to avoid any first-person reference.''?
:*John 3:11: ἀμὴν ἀμὴν λέγω σοι How does this fit into your statement that ''the Greek style had not developed that improvement in writing style, to the point of using awkward constructs to avoid any first-person reference.''?
:[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 16:08, 22 September 2012 (EDT)
:[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 16:08, 22 September 2012 (EDT)