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Which is why I made those edits to get it into a semi-reasonable state. They way that [[User:Conservative]] had it was completely unacceptable for a wiki like this, it was more like something you'd expect to read in a very very dodgy celebrity section in a really tabloidy tabloid. Unfortunately [[User:Conservative]] has a habit of locking pages when another user makes constructive improvements to the article which he does not agree with. I find such tactics quite childish and similar to what a child would do when they keep getting hit for six in the park, take their bat and ball home. [[User:Dvergne|Dvergne]] 03:24, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
Which is why I made those edits to get it into a semi-reasonable state. They way that [[User:Conservative]] had it was completely unacceptable for a wiki like this, it was more like something you'd expect to read in a very very dodgy celebrity section in a really tabloidy tabloid. Unfortunately [[User:Conservative]] has a habit of locking pages when another user makes constructive improvements to the article which he does not agree with. I find such tactics quite childish and similar to what a child would do when they keep getting hit for six in the park, take their bat and ball home. [[User:Dvergne|Dvergne]] 03:24, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
I agree completely. It's not as if I feel this information should be ignored or suppressed, but the same quotes can already be found verbatim (or at least very close to verbatim from a quick read) on the pages [[Atheism_and_cowardice]], [[Shockofgod's_debate_challenge_to_atheist_Penn_Jillette]], [[Sye_Ten_Bruggencate]], [[Sye_Ten_Bruggencate's_debate_challenge_to_atheist_Penn_Jillette]] and possibly others but those were the ones I was able to find just from direct links. All of those pages seem like more appropriate places for it than on the [[Penn Jillette]] page. If we want to keep this site as legitimate and accessible as possible, my suggestion would to be make biographical pages purely biographical and then list these other pages in the "See Also" section as they already are. The true Christians and Conservatives will already agree with the statements on those other pages, but if we want to convince liberals and people in the middle to come to this side, we need to rewrite pages like this to stick to the immediate topic while making the other facts available through links without shoving it down their throat before they're ready to swallow it. [[User:Fnarrow|Fnarrow]] 11:49, 6 April 2013 (EDT)