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Brights section and a question/proposal for Conservative
I agree completely. It's not as if I feel this information should be ignored or suppressed, but the same quotes can already be found verbatim (or at least very close to verbatim from a quick read) on the pages [[Atheism_and_cowardice]], [[Shockofgod's_debate_challenge_to_atheist_Penn_Jillette]], [[Sye_Ten_Bruggencate]], [[Sye_Ten_Bruggencate's_debate_challenge_to_atheist_Penn_Jillette]] and possibly others but those were the ones I was able to find just from direct links. All of those pages seem like more appropriate places for it than on the [[Penn Jillette]] page. If we want to keep this site as legitimate and accessible as possible, my suggestion would to be make biographical pages purely biographical and then list these other pages in the "See Also" section as they already are. The true Christians and Conservatives will already agree with the statements on those other pages, but if we want to convince liberals and people in the middle to come to this side, we need to rewrite pages like this to stick to the immediate topic while making the other facts available through links without shoving it down their throat before they're ready to swallow it. [[User:Fnarrow|Fnarrow]] 11:49, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
I agree completely. It's not as if I feel this information should be ignored or suppressed, but the same quotes can already be found verbatim (or at least very close to verbatim from a quick read) on the pages [[Atheism_and_cowardice]], [[Shockofgod's_debate_challenge_to_atheist_Penn_Jillette]], [[Sye_Ten_Bruggencate]], [[Sye_Ten_Bruggencate's_debate_challenge_to_atheist_Penn_Jillette]] and possibly others but those were the ones I was able to find just from direct links. All of those pages seem like more appropriate places for it than on the [[Penn Jillette]] page. If we want to keep this site as legitimate and accessible as possible, my suggestion would to be make biographical pages purely biographical and then list these other pages in the "See Also" section as they already are. The true Christians and Conservatives will already agree with the statements on those other pages, but if we want to convince liberals and people in the middle to come to this side, we need to rewrite pages like this to stick to the immediate topic while making the other facts available through links without shoving it down their throat before they're ready to swallow it. [[User:Fnarrow|Fnarrow]] 11:49, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
== Brights section and a question/proposal for [[User:Conservative|Conservative]]==
[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] can you please give me access to do some editing to this page or do it yourself? While Penn is still listed as a member on the Brights' website, he makes it very clear on page 229 of his new book ''Every Day is an Atheist Holiday'' that while he still supports the group in theory, he no longer associates himself with them. While I do not agree with everything (possibly even most things) Mr. Jillette says I am a fan of his and would like to expand this page. I know this is one of those topics that we will disagree on, but I also think we both trust each other enough to know the other has nothing but the best interest of Conservapedia at heart. So if you have the time, maybe we can even do it as a joint project? Or I could make "draft page" somewhere and submit it for your approval? Let me know what works best for you. [[User:Fnarrow|Fnarrow]] 14:12, 12 April 2013 (EDT)