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→Belief vs. fact: On "think", and deleting the flat Earth bit.
::Personally I prefer the use of "think" over "believe" for things one considers to be facts (or logical - I ''think'' that the pythagorean theorem is correct). In either case, of course, one can be wrong. As far as you (Philip J.) using "believe" where some might prefer "think", I think that as long as you're not altering their words, you are well within the bounds of reasonable usage. Although, once they say "think", you should honor their usage when referring to them. Oh, and what I'm talking about isn't quite the same as the heading. I'm not talking rhetorical uses, where people bandy about "belief", "fact", and "think" to pejorize others viewpoints. To look at what I'm saying another way, if you say "I know that the Creation described in Genesis is a fact", one should then refer to your position using those words. [[User:Human|Human]] 13:59, 20 April 2007 (EDT)
::Personally I prefer the use of "think" over "believe" for things one considers to be facts (or logical - I ''think'' that the pythagorean theorem is correct). In either case, of course, one can be wrong. As far as you (Philip J.) using "believe" where some might prefer "think", I think that as long as you're not altering their words, you are well within the bounds of reasonable usage. Although, once they say "think", you should honor their usage when referring to them. Oh, and what I'm talking about isn't quite the same as the heading. I'm not talking rhetorical uses, where people bandy about "belief", "fact", and "think" to pejorize others viewpoints. To look at what I'm saying another way, if you say "I know that the Creation described in Genesis is a fact", one should then refer to your position using those words. [[User:Human|Human]] 13:59, 20 April 2007 (EDT)
:::I tend to use "think" as more of a synonym for an ''opinion'', but you are correct that "think" can be a synonym of "believe". I accept in principle your point about honouring the other person's usage, and I think that I do when I'm directly replying to them, but I won't always be able to recall what a particular person prefers in other cases. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:33, 20 April 2007 (EDT)
Is someone gonna remove the "the Earth is actually flat part"?
Is someone gonna remove the "the Earth is actually flat part"?
[[User:Middle Man|Middle Man]] (A user who's been on several transatlantic flights...)
[[User:Middle Man|Middle Man]] (A user who's been on several transatlantic flights...)
:It's not actually saying tha the Earth is flat, but that a number of Christians have and do believe that. I disagree, and have tried removing it once before, and intend to return when I get time to explain more clearly why it should come out. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:33, 20 April 2007 (EDT)