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Observations: (1) Hersh  rapidly goes from talking about the existence of an FBI file to the existence of an NSA file on Seth Rich; (2) this knowledge in open source gives Congressional Oversight Committees power to demnd documents from from the Executive Branch for "any and all documents". (Simple illustration: in a [[FOIA]] request, you must provide the exact file number to obtain the document. Documents are casually referenced by name, like "The Rosenberg File" or "The Family Jewels", but files are often intercollated with two different investigations, like Hillary email and the Clinton Foundation.  So the document number is used to hide sensitive information from both Congress and the FOIA. Redactions are how the existence of sensitive information is shielded - one file referencing the existence of another secret file by number. Occasionally a secret file sneaks through by a failure in the redactions process. Once the file number is known, anyone can access it by the Freedom of Information Act). (3) Hersh is serving notice to Congressional Committees, by a circuitous route to protect his leaker, the existence  of''both'' an FBI file & investigation into Seth Rich, AND an NSA  file on Seth Rich. This is now, ''per'' Seymour Hersh a reputable journalist, public knowledge and gives legal Condtitutiinal authority to Congress to exercise its advise and consent function. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]} 19:07, 4 August 2017 (EDT)

Observations: (1) Hersh  rapidly goes from talking about the existence of an FBI file to the existence of an NSA file on Seth Rich; (2) this knowledge in open source gives Congressional Oversight Committees power to demnd documents from from the Executive Branch for "any and all documents". (Simple illustration: in a [[FOIA]] request, you must provide the exact file number to obtain the document. Documents are casually referenced by name, like "The Rosenberg File" or "The Family Jewels", but files are often intercollated with two different investigations, like Hillary email and the Clinton Foundation.  So the document number is used to hide sensitive information from both Congress and the FOIA. Redactions are how the existence of sensitive information is shielded - one file referencing the existence of another secret file by number. Occasionally a secret file sneaks through by a failure in the redactions process. Once the file number is known, anyone can access it by the Freedom of Information Act). (3) Hersh is serving notice to Congressional Committees, by a circuitous route to protect his leaker, the existence  of ''both'' an FBI file & investigation into Seth Rich, AND an NSA  file on Seth Rich. This is now, ''per'' Seymour Hersh a reputable journalist, public knowledge and gives legal Condtitutiinal authority to Congress to exercise its advise and consent function. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]} 19:07, 4 August 2017 (EDT)

:Thanks Rob for the comment. I think that Congress has power to subpoena any document from the EXecutive branch by any way Congress chooses to use, tho the president can object with executive privilege.  ([[User:Thunkful2|Thunkful2]] ([[User talk:Thunkful2|talk]]) 19:20, 4 August 2017 (EDT))

:Thanks Rob for the comment. I think that Congress has power to subpoena any document from the EXecutive branch by any way Congress chooses to use, tho the president can object with executive privilege.  ([[User:Thunkful2|Thunkful2]] ([[User talk:Thunkful2|talk]]) 19:20, 4 August 2017 (EDT))

::Yes, but Congress must be specific in it's requests. Sen. Grassley's recent serious of requests to DoJ are  [https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/grassley-examines-potential-conflicts-top-fbi-official’s-role-russia-collusion a  good object lesson]. He must first cite public knowledge of certain known facts, than specifically demand production of documents for "any and all matters related to" whatever cause of the Congressional investigation. On the receiving end, DoJ is always looking for loopholes in Grassley's requests to avoid full disclosure. If Grassley makes no specific request of documents pertaining to Seth Rich, portions in other documents relating to the existence of a Seth Rich file are redacted out. Heretofore we had no knowledge of a federal Seth Rich investigation - such allegations were relegated, according to reputable sources, as Alex Jones conspiracy stuff. Now Grassley has the legal tools to demand production of documents, but first other known reputable publications must pick up on Hersh's statements and give them credibility. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]} 19:33, 4 August 2017 (EDT)

::Yes, but Congress must be specific in it's requests. Sen. Grassley's recent series of requests to DoJ are  [https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/grassley-examines-potential-conflicts-top-fbi-official’s-role-russia-collusion a  good object lesson]. He must first cite public knowledge of certain known facts, than specifically demand production of documents for "any and all matters related to" whatever cause of the Congressional investigation. On the receiving end, DoJ is always looking for loopholes in Grassley's requests to avoid full disclosure. If Grassley makes no specific request of documents pertaining to Seth Rich, portions in other documents relating to the existence of a Seth Rich file are redacted out. Heretofore we had no knowledge of a federal Seth Rich investigation - such allegations were relegated, according to reputable sources, as Alex Jones conspiracy stuff. Now Grassley has the legal tools to demand production of documents, but first other known reputable publications must pick up on Hersh's statements and give them credibility. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]} 19:33, 4 August 2017 (EDT)