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→What have we learned from our father, Abraham?
Where was Abraham ever baptized? before the law of baptisms was ever was given (Leviticus, and elsewhere)? Abraham was circumcised, but circumcision is of the heart, not of the flesh. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 17:39, 30 October 2019 (EDT)
Where was Abraham ever baptized? before the law of baptisms was ever was given (Leviticus, and elsewhere)? Abraham was circumcised, but circumcision is of the heart, not of the flesh. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 17:39, 30 October 2019 (EDT)
"I see you've avoided answering this key New Testament question (Romans chapter 4 and Galatians) now for 4 days. Here's the Answer:
:''Abraham was saved by belief (faith) in the resurrection. He was justified by his faith, and saved from wrath, and saved from the works of the Law. Abraham was a blood washed, born again Christian. ''We also now have by faith into this same grace.''
:Maybe now you can understand the verses referring to ''before the foundations of the earth were laid'', or ''In the beginning was the word''. or ''from everlasting to everlasting'', or ''I am Alpha and Omega'', or ''predestined and foreordained'', or ''there is no new thing under the sun''.
:Do not avoid this question - it is foundational to any man of faith.
:Faith is quite simple - it is trust. Trust in God. Trust in God's word. Trust in God over our own understanding and reasoned judgements.
:To rely on ourselves, rather than accept God, God's word, and God's teaching, is pride. What St. Valentine and the Catholic church call original sin. It was the sin of Lucifer - making himself out to be God. It was the sin of Adam - rejecting God to ''worship and serve the creature more than the Creator''. It is the sin of everyone who rejects the Gospel of Grace in favor of a doctrine of Law, that by welldoing you can earn your standing with God. God see's rejection of the sacrifice of his son as pride. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 08:14, 3 November 2019 (EST)
===Exodus chapter 33===
===Exodus chapter 33===