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::::::You're a day late and dollar short. You're already on record claiming that a work - physical baptism - is necessary for salvation. That's what this whole discussion has been about. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 18:36, 3 November 2019 (EST)
 
::::::You're a day late and dollar short. You're already on record claiming that a work - physical baptism - is necessary for salvation. That's what this whole discussion has been about. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 18:36, 3 November 2019 (EST)
 
:::::::God does the work of salvation in baptism which He ordained as the ordinary means of salvation ''[[Ex opere operato and ex opere operantis|ex opere operato]]'', not man.--[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 18:45, 3 November 2019 (EST)
 
:::::::God does the work of salvation in baptism which He ordained as the ordinary means of salvation ''[[Ex opere operato and ex opere operantis|ex opere operato]]'', not man.--[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 18:45, 3 November 2019 (EST)
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::::::::Secondly, elsewhere on this page you asked, "Where does it say the church can't save?" I responded by saying even the Catholic church does not teach that the church can save. You just dug out church teaching:
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:::::::::''The Catholic Church teaches instead that salvation is '''solely''' by the grace and justification of '''Jesus Christ alone''' by the power of the Holy Spirit through baptism.
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::::::::To answer your latest posting, you've insisted that the physical work of water baptism is necessary for salvation. Both the Bible and the confused doctrine of men you cite refute you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 18:55, 3 November 2019 (EST)
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