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, 14:21, August 25, 2020→Debate: Is the Roman Catholic doctrine of grace biblical
::Loving correction is one thing; blatant defiance is quite another, especially when one's own conscience and personal individual understanding is made the supreme infallible authority that no one else in any position of authority has a right to question or correct. See Jude 8 and 11 and 19, Numbers chapter 16, and the article [[Individualism]]. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 10:02, 25 August 2020 (EDT)
::Loving correction is one thing; blatant defiance is quite another, especially when one's own conscience and personal individual understanding is made the supreme infallible authority that no one else in any position of authority has a right to question or correct. See Jude 8 and 11 and 19, Numbers chapter 16, and the article [[Individualism]]. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 10:02, 25 August 2020 (EDT)
:::A Christian believer is not bound to any spiritual law the Roman church pretends to have. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 10:21, 25 August 2020 (EDT)
:See, this is where you fall down. This is where you prove the Catholic gospel is not a gospel of grace - by threatening to send members to hell for not confessing to a priest. ''By grace are ye saved, through faith;'' ''not of works:'' ''if by works, grace is not grace''; ''ye are not under law, but under grace''. Your threats of sending people to hell for violating Roman church tenets are empty, spurious, deceptive, and do not have authority of God. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 09:56, 25 August 2020 (EDT)
:See, this is where you fall down. This is where you prove the Catholic gospel is not a gospel of grace - by threatening to send members to hell for not confessing to a priest. ''By grace are ye saved, through faith;'' ''not of works:'' ''if by works, grace is not grace''; ''ye are not under law, but under grace''. Your threats of sending people to hell for violating Roman church tenets are empty, spurious, deceptive, and do not have authority of God. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 09:56, 25 August 2020 (EDT)