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::::That's why you need to consult with an Admin. In the past several months CP has undergone a policy shift on blocking and toward abusive editors. We also are trying to improve communication between sysops and asst sysops, encourage more discussion among editors, and move away from heavy handed blocking. We are trying to be fair to good faith editors who may have made a few mistakes, while expanding the user base. In the past, knee-jerk arbitrary blocking has not been useful to building the project. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]]</sup> 00:11, January 2, 2022 (EST)
::::That's why you need to consult with an Admin. In the past several months CP has undergone a policy shift on blocking and toward abusive editors. We also are trying to improve communication between sysops and asst sysops, encourage more discussion among editors, and move away from heavy handed blocking. We are trying to be fair to good faith editors who may have made a few mistakes, while expanding the user base. In the past, knee-jerk arbitrary blocking has not been useful to building the project. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]]</sup> 00:11, January 2, 2022 (EST)
:::::Vandals can vandalize a lot faster than admins can respond. It took a looong time for Andy to respond to that vandal I told you about who was making a sock every few seconds. Most of the senior admins don't respond as fast as the vandals can vandalize. I originally made this account so I could undo vandalism faster, but I would be stuck edit warring with the vandals until someone with blocking capabilities eventually responded and blocked the Vandal. The kind of people who just want to deface pages and mess with this site are pretty obvious, especially that one who wants to deface the J6 protest and Donald Trump articles to push the MSM narrative. And then there's that childish bully who keeps making socks to pick on Northwest. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 00:30, January 2, 2022 (EST)
:::::Vandals can vandalize a lot faster than admins can respond. It took a looong time for Andy to respond to that vandal I told you about who was making a sock every few seconds. Most of the senior admins don't respond as fast as the vandals can vandalize. I originally made this account so I could undo vandalism faster, but I would be stuck edit warring with the vandals until someone with blocking capabilities eventually responded and blocked the Vandal. The kind of people who just want to deface pages and mess with this site are pretty obvious, especially that one who wants to deface the J6 protest and Donald Trump articles to push the MSM narrative. And then there's that childish bully who keeps making socks to pick on Northwest. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 00:30, January 2, 2022 (EST)
:::::Yes, you are on point about much of the problem. In 2021, Admins have had extensive review and discussion behind the scenes, which has led to the current 6 month max. Me personally, I am very much aware of how the vandals, and organized vandals, operate. In the case we are referring to now about three vandal attacks on the Trump page, you could hand out 6 month blocks based upon your reasonable suspicion they originate with the same gang of coordinated attacks. However after strike two or three, you then can approach an Admin and request a (probably temporary) page lock. I try to stay on top of this stuff, but can't always be everywhere at once. So I need your help. Please stay within the blocking guidelines, and demonstrate good faith that you want to help build the user base. Thank you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]]</sup> 00:41, January 2, 2022 (EST)