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::::::For the argument regarding the United States overthrowing the democratically elected government of Ukraine and the Russian people's reaction to it after being lectured for decades by the US, NATO, and the West about "democracy", review [https://youtu.be/8X7Ng75e5gQ Vladimir Posner's Yale lecture.] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 03:18, August 22, 2022 (EDT)
::::::For the argument regarding the United States overthrowing the democratically elected government of Ukraine and the Russian people's reaction to it after being lectured for decades by the US, NATO, and the West about "democracy", review [https://youtu.be/8X7Ng75e5gQ Vladimir Posner's Yale lecture.] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 03:18, August 22, 2022 (EDT)
== Lying to pollsters ==
Americans give more conservative answers to pollsters when promised anonymity by a margin of ten to twenty points: "[https://www.axios.com/2022/08/17/americans-voters-private-belief-poll-abortion-education-covid-19 Study: What Americans really think]." This reminds of the end of communism when a large minority of Poles and other Eastern Europeans told pollsters that they would vote for the local communist party, but almost no one did. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 19:35, August 22, 2022 (EDT)
:While [[Right-wing populism]] has picked up a lot of anti-corporate/globalist [[socialist]]s, as well as anti-transgender [[feminist]]s, the phenomena of a "hidden vote" seems to be transferring from the Republican party to the Democrat party, as Moderate Democrats keep their party allegiance while being publicly embarrassed to admit being associated with the hard left. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 19:56, August 22, 2022 (EDT)
:For example, socialists were never fooled for an instant that Ukraine didn't have Nazis, or that NATO wasn't in bed with fascists. And feminists see [[transgenderism]] as destroying all the rights they fought for. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 20:06, August 22, 2022 (EDT)
:Now, these voters get lumped in with "rightwing populists" because they have the same aims, which conservatives get all excited about and libs fear. But are they really conservative or right wing? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 20:09, August 22, 2022 (EDT)
== Fauci will leave in December ==
Dr death Fauci declare that he will leave office in December, one month before Republicans possibly retaking the House and Senate after midterm election. --[[User:Alex Kosh|Alex Kosh]] ([[User talk:Alex Kosh|talk]]) 19:56, August 22, 2022 (EDT)
[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dr-anthony-fauci-says-he-will-leave-federal-gov-t-in-december/ar-AA10WOFX?OCID=ansmsnnews11 Dr. Anthony Fauci says he will leave federal gov't in December] --[[User:Alex Kosh|Alex Kosh]] ([[User talk:Alex Kosh|talk]]) 19:56, August 22, 2022 (EDT)
==Desecularization==
There is a HUGE flaw in User:Conservative's [[desecularization]] theory he keeps pushing with an inordinate amount of space on MPR. In the sense that his own source, Prof. Eric Kaufman uses the term, Desecularization = Islamization, but User:Conservative refuses to inform his readers of that. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 13:08, August 23, 2022 (EDT)
Afghanistan has been desecularized since the [[Fall of Kabul]]. But we haven't heard a word about that from User:Conservative. 13:13, August 23, 2022 (EDT)
:That is not true about what [[Eric Kaufmann]] says. I don't think you have read enough of Kaufmann's writings. The evangelical/pentecostal populations are growing in China, Africa, Europe, Latin America, New Zealand and other places. See: [[Growth of evangelical Christianity]] and [[Growth of religious fundamentalism]] and [[Growth of evangelical Christianity in irreligious regions]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:18, August 23, 2022 (EDT)
::Also, Afghanistan has been a very religious country for centuries. It was never a secular country in recent times. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:20, August 23, 2022 (EDT)
::::"It was never a secular country in recent times." What planet are you on? The 20 years of feminism & the LGBT agenda forced on them was not secularization? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 13:50, August 23, 2022 (EDT)
::::Additionally, are you saying the centuries old tradition of [[Bacha bazi]] is "religious"? It was the Taliban that banned it when they desecularized Afghanistan in the 1990s. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 13:53, August 23, 2022 (EDT)
::::::The reason the Taliban was swift to take over Afghanistan once the well-armed Americans left is that Islam is very strong in Afghanistan. It's been that way for a long time. It's never been a secular country. Period. Full stop. Cultures tend to change slow. And Americans' attempt to make Afghanistan a liberal country never took root. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:58, August 23, 2022 (EDT)
:::::::It don't know if that is entirely true; Ukraine was quick to embrace gay marriage after only 8 years to get U.S. & NATO aid, and draw them away from the Orthodox Church. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 15:17, August 23, 2022 (EDT)
:::Yes I have read Kaufman - from your own links.
:::You'r not going to win this argument. You are sabotaging your own "Red Wave" with your totally inordinate Essay length editorials on MPR which is supposed to be used only for headlines. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 13:25, August 23, 2022 (EDT)
:::Look at Recent Changes. The Green number in parenthesis says how many bytes added. +200 is a large headline. Yours are repeatedly +1200 to +1500. That '''''is not''''' a headline, it is an Essay that should in be Mainspace. If you want to do that, write an Essay and post a couple of words teaser or blurb with a link to it. You take up entirely far too much space ("column inches" in newsprint jargon) with junk nobody cares to read. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 13:30, August 23, 2022 (EDT)
::::I have read more of [[Eric Kaufmann]]'s material and watched more of his videos than you have. And I know that you are definitely wrong about this matter.
::::And I am not even going to try to win an argument with a stubborn person who has already made up his mind. "A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still." [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:35, August 23, 2022 (EDT)
:::::I'm stubborn? You're the one who keeps reposting the same redundant garbage over and over again, boring readers to death and driving them away. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 13:41, August 23, 2022 (EDT)
:::::You either think readers are stupid with your redundancy (which is insulting to them), or deep down you know nobody reads it and that's why you keep force feeding the same junk over and over again. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 13:44, August 23, 2022 (EDT)
:::(ec) You waste vital column inches with blank space. You step on vital news that readers need. (Column inches have a direct dollar value, as anyone who has placed a classified ad knows. The dollar value is determined by people's interest in the space. But you are totally oblivious of the basics of the publishing business). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 13:40, August 23, 2022 (EDT)
Concerning the future of [[evangelicalism|evangelical Protestantism]] in Europe, in a paper entitled ''Shall the Religious Inherit the Earth?: Demography and Politics in the Twenty-First Century'', Eric Kaufmann wrote:
:What of European [[Christianity]]? The conventional wisdom holds it to be in free fall, especially in Western [[Europe]]. (Bruce 2002) This is undoubtedly correct for Catholic Europe, while Protestant Europe already has low levels of religious practice. Yet closer scrutiny reveals an increasingly lively and demographically growing Christian remnant. Several studies have examined the connection between religiosity - whether defined as attendance, belief or affiliation - and fertility in Europe. Most find a statistically significant effect even when controlling for age, education, income, marital status and other factors...
:Moving to the wider spectrum of European Christianity, we find that fertility is indeed much higher among European women who are religious...
:Today, most of those who remain religious in Europe wear their beliefs lightly, but conservative Christianity is hardly a spent force. Data on conservative Christians is difficult to come by since many new churches keep few official records. Reports from the World Christian Database, which meticulously tracks reports from church bodies, indicates that 4.1 percent of Europeans (including Russians) were evangelical Christians in 2005. This figure rises to 4.9 percent in northern, western and southern Europe. Most religious conservatives are charismatics, working within mainstream denominations like Catholicism or Lutheranism to ‘renew’ the faith along more conservative lines. There is also an important minority of Pentecostals, who account for .5% of Europe’s population. Together, charismatics and Pentecostals account for close to 5 % of Europe’s population. The proportion of conservative Christians has been rising, however: some estimate that the trajectory of conservative Christian growth has outpaced that of Islam in Europe. (Jenkins 2007: 75).
:In many European countries, the proportion of conservative Christians is close to the number who are recorded as attending church weekly. This would suggest an increasingly devout Christian remnant is emerging in western Europe which is more resistant to secularization. This shows up in France, Britain and Scandinavia (less Finland), the most secular countries where we have 1981, 1990 and 2000 EVS and 2004 ESS data on religiosity...
:Currently there are more evangelical Christians than Muslims in Europe. (Jenkins 2007: 75) In Eastern Europe, as outside the western world, Pentecostalism is a sociological and not a demographic phenomenon. In Western Europe, by contrast, demography is central to evangelicalism’s growth, especially in urban areas. Alas, immigration brings two foreign imports, Islam and Christianity, to secular Europe."[http://www.sneps.net/RD/uploads/1-Shall%20the%20Religious%20Inherit%20the%20Earth.pdf]
In 2012, the ''Christian Science Monitor'' reported: "Daniel Liechti, vice-president of the French National Evangelical Council, found that since 1970, a new evangelical church has opened in France every 10 days. The number of churches increased from 769 to 2,068 last year."[https://www.csmonitor.com/World/2012/0712/In-a-France-suspicious-of-religion-evangelicalism-s-message-strikes-a-chord]
Granted the European migrant crisis has brought in a lot of additional Muslims into Europe, but evangelical/pentecostal Christianity are definitely growing in Europe. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:28, August 23, 2022 (EDT)
:The Muslims have a higher birthrate. Christianity does not grow by birthrate. Christianity is an individual choice. That's what the gospel is ("Ye are of your father the devil," as Jesus said to the Jews who thought they were children of God by birth).
:But you are missing my main complaint: You take up entirely too much MPR space with Essay editorials that do not belong on MPR. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 14:34, August 23, 2022 (EDT)
::The more conservative a Christian group is the more they grew by birthrate. In Africa for example, the birthrate of Christians is high. In the United States, the Amish are doubling in population every 20 years. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:36, August 23, 2022 (EDT)
:::This is not the place to debate the pros and cons on desecularization. The point is wasting vital headline space with editorials.
:(ec) Write an Essay, post a two sentence '''''teaser''''' with a link to it on MPR to get internal clicks. That's how it's suppose to work. All you are doing is ''adding'' to the bounce rate (or single page views on the site) on MPR. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 14:40, August 23, 2022 (EDT)
:::The American [[sociology|sociologist]] and author [[Peter L. Berger]] introduced the concept of desecularization in 1999.[http://intl-jcs.oxfordjournals.org/content/52/2/232.full#fn-2] According to Berger, "One can say with some confidence that modern Pentecostalism must be the fastest growing religion in human history."[http://www.the-american-interest.com/2010/07/29/pentecostalism-protestant-ethic-or-cargo-cult/]
:::Given his scholarship focus, Kaufmann must be aware of Berger and the fact that he coined the word desecularization. And desecularization is different than Islamification. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:42, August 23, 2022 (EDT)
::::Man, you do not listen at all, do you. This is not the place to discuss desecularization. It should be on one of the Essay pages.
::::We are discussing driving readers '''''away''''' from MPR.
:(ec) Basically, we should not even allow external links on MPR; any new or relevant information should be '''''within''''' the internal links on MPR to draw readers '''''into''''' the site, not '''''away'''''. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 14:47, August 23, 2022 (EDT)
::::The reason I have not addressed your MPR complaint by now is that you were looking for a bone to pick with me about MPR and you carelessly made a claim that was wrong about Kaufmann and how he uses the word desecularization. And you stubbornly stuck to that careless claim. So look in the mirror if I didn't address your main complaint by now. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:48, August 23, 2022 (EDT)
:::::Stop taking up +1500 bytes of MPR space with redundant information. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 14:51, August 23, 2022 (EDT)
:::::Post your editorials on MPL below the Popular Articles section. You used to have the whole MPL for that, and there's plenty of space there for it. But don't waste MPR headline space. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 14:56, August 23, 2022 (EDT)
::::::By the way, I will do fewer lengthy posts on MPR. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:58, August 23, 2022 (EDT)
:::::::Okay, thanks. I'm going to hold you to that.
:::::::Tip: use "teasers" to draw people into the site to your page and get clicks on the page. Don't shoot your wad all over the Main Page. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 15:01, August 23, 2022 (EDT)
Also, I will use use MPL more as a substitute for MPR.
With that being said, it is possible that China's economic decline may be of a magnitude and speed that the Chinese Communist Party can't control it as far as China having a super severe economic downturn. If the second largest economy in the world, which is in China, has big problems, it will affect America.
So Biden may be facing economic headwinds from China and Europe. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:29, August 23, 2022 (EDT)
:Also, Conservapedia's atheism article gets about 8,000 page views a month plus there is a ton of other atheist content at Conservapedia that gets traffic too. That is why I sometimes post big developments related to atheism on the main page. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:31, August 23, 2022 (EDT)
::That's a good idea. There's plenty of space there (you may have to share it, cause I might wanna do some editorial comment once and awhile).
::What we should do, need to do, is not post external links that lead readers '''''away''''' from the site on the Main Page. Any news or new content '''''should''''' be '''''added''''' to existing articles, '''to keep the articles updated''', and MPR should be used to draw readers '''''into''''' the site, and not '''''away'''''. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 15:57, August 23, 2022 (EDT)
::We have been very lazy about this, posting news on a subject, and the internal links to an article that hasn't been updated in 10 years. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 16:00, August 23, 2022 (EDT)
===MPL===
See my [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Template_talk:Mainpageleft&curid=114312&diff=1883050&oldid=1723174 suggestion here]. Another advantage to this is, Editorials can remain up much longer than the 24 hr news cycle. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 21:38, August 23, 2022 (EDT)
== Have we reached peak Trump? ==
The ''Washington Post'' bet big on Trump bashing. [https://www.joshbarro.com/p/digital-revenue-dies-in-drumpfness Judging from the newspaper's revenue lately], it seems that America may finally be Trumped-up. Well, this gotta be good news for Ron DeSantis. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 23:28, August 30, 2022 (EDT)
:Trump is not going to hold big political rallies until after the midterms. Trump wants payback and vindication and he is not going to go away quietly. And Trumpism is not going away anytime soon.
:Also, watch this video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsCkGvZJfa4 Kellyanne Conway warns GOP about moving on from Trump]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:54, August 30, 2022 (EDT)
::Trump's call to rerun the 2020 election is a political stunt. He knows it's not possible and unconstitutional. He's doing what Democrats are masters at - appealing to low information voters with bs to make them outraged - kinda like Biden's [[Enabling Act]] speech tonight. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 02:27, September 1, 2022 (EDT)
::[[Dick Morris]]: [https://www.dickmorris.com/how-the-dems-plan-to-steal-the-24-election-lunch-alert/ How The Dems Plan To Steal The ’24 Election]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 14:05, September 1, 2022 (EDT)
===What happened to the Red Wave?===
[https://youtu.be/VqYUJ_dEKw4 Not according to Fox News]. We need to stop demoralizing voters by spiking the football in May, six months before November. We need to use the time to educate and inform voters on each of the vital issues of the day. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 22:14, September 1, 2022 (EDT)
For example, gloating over the ''Dobbs'' decision wasted vital time in educating voters about how the issue reverts to the states - and was no longer a federal issue. Instead, the Dems used that same timeframe to galvanize their demoralized base to vote in federal elections - threatening GOP takeover of the House.
You can't close a blind eye to what Dems are doing and saying. ''After'' a November victory, ''then'' is the time to gloat and spike the ball. Gloating is like Ukrainians taking a victory lap in their trenches, making them easier targets for Russian artillery. It ain't over til it's over. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 22:23, September 1, 2022 (EDT)
:There might be a red wave. Rasmussen's poll of likely voters (Likely voter polls are more accurate than less costly registered voter polls): "The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that, if the elections for Congress were held today, 47% of Likely U.S. Voters would vote for the Republican candidate, while 42% would vote for the Democrat. Just four percent (4%) would vote for some other candidate, but another eight percent (8%) are not sure."[https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/generic_congressional_ballot_aug26]
:Time will tell. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:08, September 2, 2022 (EDT)
::And there's still lots of time. Polls seem likely to fluctuate more before the election.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 01:02, September 2, 2022 (EDT)
A few points:
1. Political history shows that midterm election results are baked in by the second quarter of an election year (Specifically, after Memorial Day, the results of the U.S. midterm elections are cemented in and do not change much). Not even the financial crash of 2008 made a significant dent in that year’s outcome, which was largely expected in May of that year. One probably needs to go back to the Cuban missile crisis of 1962 to find an event that might have significantly helped the party in power on the eve of a midterm vote.[https://archive.ph/ZYavU#selection-723.106-727.277]
2. In the past, even if inflation went down, people's "shellshock" from inflation lingers which in the past has doomed incumbents.
3. Many Democrats/independent voters care a lot more about inflation than Roe vs. Wade or January 6. Some discouraged Democrats may stay home.
4. Presidential approval nummbers and polling about whether the country is on the right/wrong track are a big influence on midterm elections and both are very bad for Democrats. But I don't know how much weight these have in carison to the generic congressional polling
Bottomline: After America voted in "tricky Dick" Nixon, voted for "Slick Willy" Clinton twice, voted for the callous, ex-drunk G.W. Bush twice (who acted like a deer in the headlights when he first heard 9-11 happened), voted for the liberal, phony, "Messiah" Obama twice and gave lots of votes to a faltering and crooked Joe Biden, I don't pretend to know what Americans are going to do in this upcoming midterm elections as far as voting. People generally get the politicians they deserve and there is a lot of bad judgment and crookedness in the American electorate. But things are going so bad under Biden that I think there will be a red wave, but I am not sure.
Net result: People who move to Republican-controlled areas and keep their options open for being an expat are making the right decision in many cases due to crime, taxes and the general culture in Democrat controlled areas. But I realize that people have family connections in terms of where they live and may want to stay in a blue state/county/city for that reason. But in many cases, it is better to flee a proverbial Sodom. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:37, September 2, 2022 (EDT)
:Update: Joe Biden's Real Clear Politics approval polling average went up about 6 points since his recent lowest approval rating.[https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president-biden-job-approval-7320.html] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 10:01, September 2, 2022 (EDT)
::Check out "[https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/09/02/the_generic_congressional_ballot_and_recent_history_148138.html The Generic Congressional Ballot and Recent History]." In 2010, the generic ballot was tied as late as July. Yet the GOP won the election by 6.8 percentage points. In 2014, the Dems were still ahead in September, yet the GOP won by 5.3 points. In blue wave years like 2006 and 2018, the generic ballot consistently favors the Dems by a wide margin. The year with a polling pattern closest to this year's was 2014, when the GOP picked up 63 seats in the House to achieve a 49-seat majority. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 21:02, September 2, 2022 (EDT)
:::Your link is dead. Regardless, ignore polls that are not "likely voter" polls and merely registered voters polls given the accuracy problems of polling lately. Also, here is what a pollster recently said: "What I tell people is just to take the margin of error and double it. That’s what the science tells us that the true size of the margin of error is."[https://www.niskanencenter.org/the-past-and-future-of-polling/]
:::In the recent past, I was skeptical of polls from the legacy media news organization due to their lack of honesty in their reporting. They might just be voter suppression polls in some cases. I do pay attention to Rasmussen polls and [https://www.thetrafalgargroup.org/ Trafalgar Group polling] and the Real Clear Politics average of all the polls such as this data: [https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president-biden-job-approval-7320.html Joe Biden's approval polling - Real Clear Politics]. Looking more closely at the Real Clear Politics average data, the Trafalgar Group polling and Rassmussen polling isn't anomalous to the mainstream news polling so I think I may have been overly skeptical before. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:36, September 2, 2022 (EDT)
::::Your sense of timing in the news cycle is atrocious. The whole planet is focused on Biden's declaration of War against MAGA, and you post up +2400 bytes about Sweden and other garbage nobody is interested in. Readers interest is in reaction to the speech, not Uk potholes or whatever other tangent you want to go off on. You destroyed any chance to develop a counter-narrative. In fact, it makes you look like you're shilling for Biden and Democrats and actually agree with him by not reporting on reaction to Biden's divisive hate speech. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 23:00, September 2, 2022 (EDT)
::::You declared a Red Wave victory in May, and now when the battle first starts, you run away to Sweden. I don't know, I guess you have no understanding how the news and publishing business operates. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 23:04, September 2, 2022 (EDT)
::::All my sources in the past 24 hrs say Biden declared Civil War against MAGA, but you wouldn't know that from reading Conservapedia. Evidently Conservapedia finds Biden's criticism legitimate and indefensible, with our latest update on Swedish potholes. We're not even trying to educate and guide voters. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 23:17, September 2, 2022 (EDT)
:::::Biden's angry and divisive speech will hurt him with independents and women and overnight polling of the speech appeared to show disapproval and he whiplashed in the opposite direction the next day.
:::::Biden has [https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2013/aug/05/were-grumpy-for-a-reason/ Grumpy Old Man syndrome]. And he is angry that he is unpopular. And he is desperate to energize his base by focusing on Trump/Trumpism and diverting their attention from inflation and other problems he helped cause.
:::::Joe Biden will face gridlock and investigations once the GOP has a congressional majority which will happen in 60 days. And a U.S. recession is likely coming which will tank Biden's popularity further. In short, Biden is not some rising Hitler, he is more like an angry version of Jimmy Carter who will damage the Democrat brand for years. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 01:05, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
::::::Yah but our readers are screwed. They came here to get CP's reaction to the speech and got an update on Swedish potholes. They won't be back. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 01:20, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
===Biden's speech directed at Blacks===
[[File:Support for Democratic Candidates, 2012-2020.PNG|right|350px|thumb|According to the Progressive election analyst group Catalist, Democrats are losing support among minorities.<ref>https://www.vox.com/2021/5/10/22425178/catalist-report-2020-election-biden-trump-demographics</ref>]]
::The speech is directed at Blacks. Going back to Woodrow Wilson, "democracy" is a [[code word]] for "Democrat Party." MAGA is a threat to "democracy" cause it ''already has'' pulled apart the Democrat Party coalition and dependency on Black votes to win federal elections. But reading MPR, you wouldn't know that. But you would be fully informed on Swedish potholes and other irrelevant nonsense at this critical moment. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 01:29, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
::'''''That's why the Democrats had to stuff the ballot box to pull off a win, cause Democrats can no longer depend on Blacks.'''''
:::::::First of all, what happens in Europe does affect Americans. The 2016 election in which Donald Trump won was a very close election and Brexit was believed to give Donald Trump some wind in his back. In addition, what happens in Sweden affects other European countries. Anti-Muslim immigrant sentiment in Sweden can spread to France for example. And when Donald Trump gave his Muslim ban, do you think it came out of nowhere? It was affected by past events in the USA and Europe (Past Muslim terrorism and rioting). Also, Sweden is likely to become a member of NATO. In addition, although it was crazy, the Swedish environmentalist girl [[Greta Thunberg]] was influential at one time and her precipitious diminishment in influence is noteworthy. On the other hand, Biden is very unpopular and his influence will soon once again be diminishing by the day (although he recently got a bump upward due to Democrats passing some legislation). My guess is that his student loan forgiveness will be overturned by the courts. And any attempts by Biden to put boots on the ground in Ukraine would be met with a huge backlash due to war weariness in the USA and Trumpism's effect on the USA.
:::::::Also the importance of the Black vote is also diminishing by the day in relative terms. In 2022, The non-Hispanic Black population grew 6%, slower than the population growth of other groups like Hispanic Americans, up 23% since 2010, and Asian Americans, up 36%. And millions of Hispanics are pouring across the southern border. The GOP is aggressively courting the Hispanic vote. And Asian-Americans could end affirmative action in college admissions soon.[https://www.politico.com/newsletters/the-recast/2022/08/16/college-admissions-harvard-race-supreme-court-00052122]
:::::::Also, the political influence of Blacks is tied to the Democratic Party in the short term. And the Democratic Party is falling out of favor. A lot more people are leaving the Democratic Party than leaving the Republican Party right now. More than 1 million voters switch to GOP, raising alarm for Democrats.[https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/more-than-1-million-voters-switch-to-gop-raising-alarm-for-democrats] In addition, Black men are leaving the Democratic Party as they are realizing the Democrats are not helping them.
:::::::At the same time, Blacks are a growing part of the electorate (though less so than Hispanics and Asians) and the GOP is more aggressively courting Black candidates and the Black vote.[https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/598813-gop-stepping-up-appeals-to-black-candidates-voters/]
:::::::Also, intermarriage between Black men and White women is increasing in the United States. The more intermarriage between racial groups, the less identity politics is going to have over time. "Relationships and marriages between people of different racial or religious communities blur the boundaries that separate otherwise diverse societies and thwart political campaigns and policies that aim to divide. When multi-ethnic or multi-religious populations mix and intermarry, they are less likely to stigmatize their opponents, making it more likely that partisan blame lines shift from racial and religious identities to other sources of affinity. – such as policy priorities."[https://greeleytribune.net/can-intermarriage-deter-california-from-americas-identity-politics/]
:::::::Lastly, I am going to bow out of this discussion with you about main page right because I will be busy off wiki with some matters. In addition, I expect to be posting to MPR less frequently. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 09:47, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
::::::::tl;dr. Your sense of timing in the 24 hr news cycle is atrocious. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 13:25, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
::::::::''"what happens in Europe does affect Americans"''. What a joke. You buried every effort to educate Americans about "what was happening in Europe" in Ukraine with your "pivot to China." [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 13:28, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
=== User: Conservative's disagreement with Robs ===
Biden's speech was a long-winded speech by a grumpy, old, dishonest, man with cognitive issues that basically called Trump voters deplorables so it is going to have a bad effect for him and further fire up the GOP/Trump base. He also mixed in some January 6 which Americans don't really care about given the television ratings of the hearings. In about 60 days, his power will be a small fraction of what it is now due to the GOP taking over Congress. Few people think he is going to serve a second term so he is largely a lame duck president.
The GOP will do investigations on Joe Biden and Hunter Biden for their corruption, but because the Biden Admininistration controls the DOJ/FBI and the Washington, D.C. jury pool is pro-Democrat, nothing will happen to address Biden corruption. The Bidens will just stonewall the GOP. And Biden will not be thrown out of office because the GOP will not have enough votes in the Senate.
The topic of Joe Biden is a big yawnfest. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:41, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
:In the past 36 hrs, readers have come to CP Main Page to see CP's reaction to Biden declaration of war on half of American voters, and have found NO information useful to making up their minds about how to vote in November. As a consequence, in the short timeframe between now and November, they will not be back for election news. If anything, they are left with the impression that CP supports Biden. You have ZERO understanding of how to use timing in the news cycle. You have no understanding of constructing a narrative or counternarrative within that news cycle. Instead, you bombard readers with irrelevent information about UK potholes or Chinese real estate prices. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 14:51, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
:Futhermore: Using MPR to send private messages to Rationalwiki User:Ace McWicked is a severe disruption of timing in the news cycle. No, your private disputes are not more important than our readers seeking vital information to make their choices on. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 14:56, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
::For most people living in the developed world, politics is not vital information to them. Most successful people are successful no matter who sits in the Oval Office, etc. I can't think of a single US president who made a big difference in my life. Also, by now most people have made up their minds about Biden by now and it is rather doubtful that his approval rating will ever be above 50% - especially with the liely coming recession.
::As far as the atheist Ace McWicked, you did raise a legitimate point. Ace's loss of consciousness which was probably due to alcohol/drugs and his subsequent mistaken belief he had died due to testimony from a paramedic was not exactly newsworthy although it was rather humorous being that death is a rather permanent state (Barring a supernatural intervention). And Ace's attempt to use that experience as some kind of evidence against the existence of God/Heaven/Hell is also humorous given its degree of foolishness. On the other hand, sometimes news organizations feature humorous things. On the whole, I am glad I quickly deleted the Ace material from MPR.
::By the way, sometimes I take good-natured digs at the Brits to rile Mercian up and to mock evolutionists (Charles Darwin was a Brit and Britain was the fountainhead of evolutionism). Andy seems to like my digs as he has made digs regarding the Brits himself. But I actually like the Brits and part of my income comes from doing business with the Brits. And the Brits have had some positive influence on American culture (John Wesley, King James Bible, common law, Magna Carta, William Shakespeare, etc.). As an aside, I only mention the pothole crisis in the UK and mention how beautiful the roads are in Switzerland which has one of the highest percentage of creationists in their population in Europe. :) [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:01, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
:::tl;dr.
:::The Biden speech story was served up to you on a silver platter, and you fumbled the snap, again. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 16:03, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
:::Yes, there are slow news days where we need "filler" for MPR. On those days you can post about Chinese real estate prices or other stuff of no interest to no one. But there will be no slow news days from now til election (and maybe even after since it's a sure bet Dems will cheat again). So hold off on the irrelevant "filler" til next year or so, please. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 16:09, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
:::We live in a world of slogans and buzz phrases. When Dems unveil their newest slogans like "Ultra MAGA", "semi-fascist", "threat to democracy", we need an instantaneous counternarrative to blunt it, with explanations. Not updates on the Chinese real estate crisis. You keep saying you have no interest in politics, yet when you disrupt a response to the latest Democrat salvo, it looks like you agree with Democrat attacks and are tryng sabotage and bury a GOP response.
:::[https://rumble.com/v1if9ij-nunes-american-people-dub-biden-pedohitler-after-extreme-speech.html Nunes: American people dub Biden ‘#PedoHitler’ after extreme speech]. An extraordinary response coming from mild-mannered [[Devin Nunes]]. Have we prepared the ground to explain why #PedoHitler is trending, or is a shooting in Sweden more vital to American voters? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 16:19, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
::::China has a significant influence in the USA. Trump relentlessly talked about China during the 2016 election. And Biden is being bribed by China. Many companies closed in the USA due to Chinese imports and their unfair trade policies. And that left many cities/towns part of the rust belt. China also does a lot of IP theft which affects American companies. In addition, their zero Covid-19 policy is affecting supply chains in the USA. And there are US companies that sell to China which has a lot of people so an economic slowdown is going to affect American workers. If you don't think what is going on in China affects America, then you aren't paying attention. China's real estate collapse and their other economic problems are going to make it harder for the Chinese to compete economically with the USA. And that is newworthy. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:25, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
:::::By the way, the coronavirus pandemic started in China and the Chinese acted negligently in containing the virus so to say that what is going on in China is of little consequence to people is simply not true. The Chinese have had more influence on my life than the lame duck president Joe Biden ever will. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:29, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
::::::You fumbled the snap. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 16:33, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
The root of your unhappiness of my additions to MPR is that I had the temerity to criticize "Saint Putin" and "Mother Russia" on main page right and on the main page talk page. That's it. Well, Putin and the Russians are not above criticism. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:38, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
:You fumbled the snap with the [[coronavirus]] coming from people eating bats and have yet to print a retraction. Til then, you have no authority or credibility on coronavirus. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 16:42, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
:Your MPR postings about people eating bats wasted at least three or four months in educating voters about the possibility of a lab leak. In retrospect now, Chinese eating bats looks like a racist stereotype - talking points you got directly from the CCP via MSM. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 16:44, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
:The first information about Coronavirus being man-made and the possibility of a lab leak came out within 10 days of the reported initial outbreak; but you killed off educating readers with that information on both MPR & in the coronavirus article with a racist stereotype of Chinese eating bats. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 16:56, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
::Historical investigations are probabilistic. We still have no complete certainty on whether the virus came from a lab leak. In fact, recent [https://archive.ph/jKxhj#selection-619.0-619.51 Studies Throw Cold Water on COVID 'Lab Leak' Theory]. Also, [https://theconversation.com/the-covid-lab-leak-theory-is-dead-heres-how-we-know-the-virus-came-from-a-wuhan-market-188163 The COVID lab leak theory is dead. Here’s how we know the virus came from a Wuhan market]. The evidence actually points against the Covid-19 lab leak theory. So it looks like mainland China's dietary practices and health safety practices surrounding the exotic animal industry is the most likely cause of the coronavirus pandemic. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:03, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
:::Thanks for clarifying that. It looks like you stand (alone) with the original CCP talking points. The scientific consensus is that covid is man made, and the only question surrounding "lab leak" is, was it intentional or accidental. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 17:12, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
::::Let's carry this digression farther: Since you are a big advocate of investigating [[Fauci]], why should he be investigated if covid came from eating bats and not [[gain of function]] research? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 17:15, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
First of all, science is not a voting booth that depends on the scientific consensus. Science depends on evidence and the replication of well-designed studies. Secondly, your claim that the scientific consensus is that the lab leak is the most likely source is absolutely wrong. The science journal ''Science'' certainly reflects the scientific consensus since it is one of the most cited science journals in the world. The science journal ''Science'' [https://www.science.org/content/article/why-many-scientists-say-unlikely-sars-cov-2-originated-lab-leak said in September 2021]: "Despite the impasse, many scientists say the existing evidence—including early epidemiological patterns, SARS-CoV-2’s genomic makeup, and a recent paper about animal markets in Wuhan—makes it far more probable that the virus, like many emerging pathogens, made a natural “zoonotic” jump from animals to humans." while acknowledging that the lab leak theory did have some momentum for a while within the scientific community on how it was viewed. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:24, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
:Yah, we know all that. Take your link, ''The Conversation'' for example. It's written by a scholars and academics in the pay of Dr. Fauci and the NIH. You're putting up a pretty good defense of Deep State corruption and MSM misinformation, again.
:Listening to you, I'm just going to ignore anything [[Jim Jordan]] or [[Rand Paul]] says from now on as right-wing extremist propaganda and a threat to democracy. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 17:33, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
:::::Gain of function research related to dangerous pathogens does not have a favorable cost/benefit ratio if you take into account risk analysis. Senator Paul, Jim Jordan and I agree on this. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:37, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
::::::(ec) Oh really? So now you are threat to democracy. That may affect my vote this November. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 17:42, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
You were wrong about the importance of the scientific consensus. And you were wrong about what the scientific consensus actually is on the matter and my citation from the science journal ''Science'' show this. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:41, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
By the way, you didn't provide any proof/evidence of this statement of yours: "The Conversation for example. It's written by a scholars and academics in the pay of Dr. Fauci and the NIH". [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:44, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
:I don't care. You fumbled the snap. Your timing in the news cycle is atrocious. And the more you talk, the less sense you make. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 17:46, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
::You fumbled repeatedly on MPR and main page talk regarding "Saint Putin" and "Mother Russia". [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:56, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
:::Oh yah? Gimme one instance where I praised "Saint Putin" or "Mother Russia". [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 18:00, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
::::And Zelensky is a corrupt politician, but there is no real evidence that he has a drug addiction. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:58, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
:::::[https://www.bitchute.com/video/Y6CGIO0d8Tue/ What say you here?] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 18:00, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
:::::And the reference on MPR to Zelensky's drug addiction is [https://www.indianpunchline.com/about-me/ cited to this man;] if you have a problem with it, go ahead and attack his integrity. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 18:07, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
Video of Zelenskyy talking about cocaine is deceptively edited.[https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-zelenskiy-powder/fact-check-zelenskiys-desk-digitally-altered-in-videoconference-clip-idUSL2N2WP10F][https://www.france24.com/en/tv-shows/truth-or-fake/20220427-disproving-claims-president-volodymyr-zelensky-addicted-cocaine][https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-volodymyr-zelenskyy-drugs-137476901035] You are putting some junk news on main page right and I suspect wasting my time about this matter too because you are already aware of what my response would be.
The whole Michelle Obama is a transexual bunk is a joke and gossip too.
I am not saying I disagree with everything you put on MPR or in main space articles, but some of it is not encyclopedic. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:12, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
:Yes, the Zelensky clip is edited down, but it was never posted on MPR. The words of a respected senior Indian career diplomat were posted on MPR verbatim.
:Michelle Obama as of now is the only Dem who could possibly defeat Trump in 2024. If you wish to continue acting like a DNC operative and covering up information in social and mainstream media, please continue your apologetics. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 18:19, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
::You wrote: "The words of a respected senior Indian career diplomat were posted on MPR verbatim. ". This is an appeal to authority logical fallacy.
:::No it isn't. It's called a citation. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 18:34, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
:::The stuff you learned from arguing with Rattrolls at Ratwiki about logical fallacies that they use to debunk your arguments is half bunk. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 18:38, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
::So me denying that Michelle Obama (who had two children) is a transexual is imperiling the USA? That is a joke. You didn't even give sources for this claim. And social media gossip is not encyclopedic. And even if "Michelle Obama as of now is the only Dem who could possibly defeat Trump in 2024." is true that does not justify spreading bogus gossip about her. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:28, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
::::Yes, much social media gossip is bunk ([[Trump-Russia]], for example), but that doesn't mean we can deny it exists or not report on its content. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 18:40, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
:::There's no evidence she gave birth to those children. We've never seen either of their birth certificates. The two have entirely different skin tones, an indication they came from different parent or parents from each other.
:::To take the burden off yourself all you need to do is say "According to MSM sources quoting Chinese Communist Party authorities (I'd use "bosses") in Beijing, coronavirus came from people eating bats." Without the disclaimer, you own the words. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 18:34, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
Your rhetoric on the origin of coronavirus will never trump scientific evidence.
I don't have any birth certificates on Trump's children, but I am not going to say any of his wives are transexual if I don't have excellent proof of it. That is just common sense and using [[Occam's razor]]. Your gossip and conjecture is not impressive in the slightest. The burden of proof is always on the claimant. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])
:Did you ever read WP [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bowling_Green_massacre/Archive_1#%22Fictitious%22_vs._%22nonexistent%22 Bowling Green massacre]? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 18:54, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
::By the way, your "Michelle Obama as of now is the only Dem who could possibly defeat Trump in 2024.", etc. is an appeal to consequences logical fallacy.
::And I didn't learn about logic from RationalWikians, I took a logic course in college plus I bought a book on critical thinking post college. I had some other sources as well such as websites that focus on the topic of logical thinking. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:56, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
:::As far as the WP article on Bowling Green massacre, I am going to pass on that. I am going to do some work-related matters now. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:00, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
:(ec) Sorry, here's the direct link to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowling_Green_massacre Bowling Green massacre]. It was one of the last article talk page discussions I took part in citing WP's own article creation and citation policies that they willfully tossed to slander Kellyanne Conway. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 19:00, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
::As far as the WP article on Bowling Green massacre, I am going to pass on that. I am going to do some work-related matters now. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:02, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
:If you're so concerned about this, we could create a separate mainspace article entitled [[Michelle Obama and transgenderism]], giving a balanced view of both sides of the argument. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 19:04, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
::There is no argument on your side. Just meanspirited insinuation driven by Machiavellian "the end justifies the means" thinking. The idea that Michelle Obama has to provide birth certificates to the public to show people she's the mother of her children in order to prove that she is not a transexual is absurd, messed-up thinking. If you can't see that, there is something definitely wrong. Again, the burden of proof is upon the claimant. And to put "some say" Michelle Obama is a transexual in an article is ridiculous. It's tabloid/gossip type content. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:41, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
:::I dunno; coming from a recession denier and Biden apologist, it's not worth rehashing. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 20:45, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
:::And you obviously have never read Machiavelli, so don't pretend to be 'intellectual' with me. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 20:46, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
:::And the "some say" was cited to Googlebooks; if there was a problem with misinformation, I'm sure Google would have censored it by now. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 20:54, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
::::But no, you caught the threat to democracy where Google and the [[Ministry of Truth]] fell down. Congratulations. Give yourself a pat on the back. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 20:57, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
:Here's a challenge, and take up as much space as you desire:
:Please connect the dots in your convoluted thinking how coronavirus and Chinese real estate prices are going to influence Independents and Blacks to vote Republican next November, as you suggest. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 21:15, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
::I am not as obsessed with Blacks as you are so I am not going to take up your challenge. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:38, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
:::Ok, scratch Blacks. Explain how any undecided or crossover voter will be influenced to vote Republican because of the connection between coronavirus and Chinese real estate prices. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 21:43, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
::::Better yet, explain how a Republican House is going to heal the Chinese real estate market and economy, and stave off global recession. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 21:51, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
:::::On top of that, you've been arguing a weak Chinese economy and real estate market is keeping China from invading Taiwan. Wouldn't a Republican House (with independent and crossover votes) that is a positive for the Chinese economy, invite an invasion of Taiwan? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 21:54, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
Recessions eventually happen. It's part of the business cycle. Since 1857, a recession has occurred, on average, about every three-and-a-quarter years in the USA. Since World War II, the USA has gone an average of 58.4 months between recessions, or nearly five years.[https://www.kiplinger.com/slideshow/investing/t038-s001-recessions-10-facts-you-must-know/index.html#:~:text=How%20Often%20Do%20Recessions%20Happen%3F&text=Again%2C%20since%201857%2C%20a%20recession,and%2Da%2Dquarter%20years.] China has had a debt fueled expansion for many years and now they have to pay the piper because there is no free lunch in economics. Europe is heading for a recession for its bad choices too.
A recession is going to hit much of the world and it's like a runaway train that no politician or government is likely to stop. Unless of course, you are going to waive a magic wand and end the war in Ukraine very soon. And wave a magic wand and get Joe Biden out of office before his term ends so the USA can have a decent energy policy (And even if you were to get Joe Biden out of office and replace him with someone who had a wise energy policy, inflation would still have to be tamed and in many cases taming inflation causes a recession.). And wave a magic wand and get the rest of the world to help bail out China's real estate industry. The three biggest economies of the USA, China and Europe are all likely headed for a recession and no politician is likely to stop it.
But again, if you are dependent on politicians for your prosperity and overall well-being you are doing something wrong. I personally have 2 recession-proof industries that I work in and I am about to add a third. I also have a company interested in hiring me for a fourth recession-proof industry. In addition, I work in a recession-resistant industry. The Bible teaches the importance of having skills, working hard, being prudent and having faith in God. It doesn't say to depend on politicians.
But there is a silver lining in a USA recession. It will make it very hard for the Democrats to win the next presidential election. Bad policies have consequences.
I don't wish to say anything more about these matters due to off-wiki matters and I don't have any interest in doing so. Because it's time to put my nose to the grindstone in earnest. Near or at the bottom of the recession, I would like to invest in a few sectors of the economy. In the meantime, I would like to wisely invest in art which is pretty recession-proof. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:33, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
:I'll let you handle all the election news. I don't want to get in the way of your strategy for a Red Wave. I'm sticking with foreign policy & Trump raid. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 16:37, September 4, 2022 (EDT)
::The reason I had a smattering of news about Sweden is that it is the most progressive/women's right country in the world. And it appears to moving to the right due to the integration of Muslims not working out due to crime, rioting, etc.
::Also, I mentioned China due to their effects on the USA and it appears as if the Chinese Communist Party could topple anywhere from soon to the 2030s. And East Asia is where most atheists in the world are located (see: [[Asian atheism]]). The fall of state atheism in China could be a big thing given the size and explosive growth of the Christian population of China (see: [[Growth of Christianity in China]]). It is estimated there will be 250 million Christians in China by around 2030 because the Christian population is growing by about 10% a year. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:36, September 4, 2022 (EDT)
:::Well, it's all yours now. I don't intend to do any electioneering on MPR, if we cannot get organized enough to have an editorial policy. If something pops up in Ukraine or elsewhere, or in the FBI scandal that our readers need to be apprised of, I'll sneak in a news item.
:::All we need is organization and cooperation. There are people willing to help. But no one at the top of this organization is interested in listening. The end result is hours wasted in stupid arguments and discussions like these threads. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 18:22, September 4, 2022 (EDT)
===Well, duh===
Look at this on MPR:
*'' The United States '''will likely enter recession within the next year'''.[4]''
Since when do we post a defense of Bidenism? The US has been in [[Recession]] beginning on Jan. 1, 2022, and it was confirmed on June 30, 2022, two months ago. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 19:31, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
Here we are, 48 hrs after the speech headlining Biden denialism and talking points. Whereas we could have posted any one of these following headlines with the source:
*Watch as MSNBC declares Civil War on Trump supporters and conservative Ameri... -
*BonginoReport: "Kayleigh McEnany responds to Biden's EVIL speech with truth about Trump...
*Devin Nunes: Nunes: American people dub Biden ‘#PedoHitler’ after extreme speech
*Biden Threatening Americans With The U.S. Military Is As Low As It Gets
*Biden Brings the War on Terror Home - President Biden in his primetime speech Thursday sure sounded like a man preparing to criminalize Trumpism. Is the White House expanding the great policy error of our time?
*‘DOJ and FBI Threatened My Safety’—Kash Patel Discusses Mar-a-Lago Affidavit Redactions... - “Two names were unredacted: President Trump's and mine,” says Kash Patel. “The only thing they cared about was putting my name on blast again, after knowing that I had been threatened before
*IRS Exposed Confidential Info of 120,000 Taxpayers; See Who Are Affected - The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) said on Friday it accidentally exposed but has since removed the confidential financial information of about 120000 taxpayers. In a letter to Homeland Security
*The Wayne Dupree Podcast: "WH Doubles Down That Biden's Speech Wasn't Political" and 5 ... -
*Biden forgot? Baffled when asked about creepy speech next day: ‘Come on guys…’ I don’t ... -
*The Durden Dispatch - Watch: CNN Caught Color-Shifting Biden's Hell-Red Rant Mid-Speech
*Stephen Miller: Biden's Hateful Speech & Corruption - Fellow Patriot, Last night President Biden gave an unprecedented and truly vile speech. In it, he effectively relegated tens of millions of patriotic Americans to the status of traitorous outlaws.
*Biden tries to walk his blood red tyranny back as SOON as Peter Doocy... -
*Joe Biden Delivers the DC Attack Speech Against MAGA Republicans
*Is Biden A Dictator? (Ep. 1844) - The Dan Bongino Show
*DOJ FBI Hoaxing the Sheeple Biden Speech Disaster Carter Pag...
*CAN YOU BELIEVE BIDEN SAID THIS? -
*Reacting to Biden's War on Dissent
*White House Addresses Backlash To Using Marines As Political Props During Bid...
*The Irony of Biden's Insane Speech - 'It's Wrong': CNN Blasts Biden for Using Military As Backdrop for 'Battle' Speech ͏
*Biden Calls GOP ’Threat to Democracy’ in Attempt to Unite Nation - This doesn't sound like the unifying speech he was aiming for.
*Watch the moment CNN adjusts Biden’s blood-red background to make it looks P...
*Biden Baits The Conservatives
*Biden's war on dissent is undemocratic and un-American - Biden defines opposition as extremism
*Mainstream Media Reporters Target Biden for Giving Polarizing Speech Flanked by US Marines - President Joe Biden received backlash from corporate news reporters on Thursday night after he delivered a polarizing campaign-style speech flanked by two US Marines. During the speech, the president
*Biden: “MAGA Republicans Do Not Respect the Constitution…They Promote Authoritarian Lea...
*Statements by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America Save America Logo Statements by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America
*MAGA agenda Biden claims is 'destroying democrac...
*The Optics Created by Joe Biden Communication Team for a National Address Were Off the ...
But no, instead we're shilling for the Biden regime right now on MPR. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 20:06, September 3, 2022 (EDT)
:RobS, Sorry for the mistake about the USA being in a recession. I know we are in a recession. I knew we were in a recession when I posted that. I guess haste makes waste. It was an oversight on my part. I fixed it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:56, September 4, 2022 (EDT)
::Your Red Wave is slipping through your fingers. Last May you plastered MPR over with polls and news of a Red Wave; now that election season has begun, you plastering MPR over with news of China, Sweden, and India and ignoring election news. If I were an independent observer, I'd speculate that you work for Big Tech or MSM - cause you ignore the news that's relevant and spoon feed us crap as a distraction. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 01:07, September 5, 2022 (EDT)
:::First of all, it is not my red wave. I am merely giving relevant data from the past and present concerning a potential red wave. And I have given pro and con arguments. But I do believe that a red wave is more likely based on this recent article I red: [https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/09/02/the_generic_congressional_ballot_and_recent_history_148138.html The Generic Congressional Ballot and Recent History]. In addition, people often vote with their pocketbook and James Carville's maxim "It's the economy stupid" applies. And the economy is not good. Crime and the border could be big drivers to get out the GOP vote too. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 01:14, September 5, 2022 (EDT)
::::Look, together we've wasted 96 x 2 = 192 hours at the kickoff of election season. I said, we have no organization or editorial policy. You ignore my point and want to discuss India, Sweden and China. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 01:20, September 5, 2022 (EDT)
::::Let the record be clear: When Biden delivered his anti-MAGA speech, you posted talking points in support of Biden on MPR. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 07:38, September 5, 2022 (EDT)