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, 15:05, November 29, 2022→Jimmy Dore on the main page - Ukrainian giving Nazi salute during Ukrainian celebration parade over victory in Kherson.
:OMG, ''"A Republican president will likely be elected in 2024."'' Please please please, don't start that again. History is organic, let it play out. Even be part of it. But give up this gypsie fortune telling crap, please. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 13:57, November 16, 2022 (EST)
:OMG, ''"A Republican president will likely be elected in 2024."'' Please please please, don't start that again. History is organic, let it play out. Even be part of it. But give up this gypsie fortune telling crap, please. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 13:57, November 16, 2022 (EST)
==KFC asks customers to commemorate Kristallnacht with extra cheese on their chicken==
[https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/11/13/kfc-apologizes-for-telling-germans-to-remember-nazi-kristallnacht-with-chicken/ I think this summarizes the level of ignorance, stupidity, thoughtlessness, self-absorption, and uncaring] for an entire generation under the age of 35, from a fast-food cashier-clerk up to an advertising executive. They will learn on their own, since they obviously have rejected the traditions and values handed down to them from their parents. And [[Vladimir Putin]] will teach them. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 01:52, November 16, 2022 (EST)
*"Germany was having trouble, what a sad, sad story
*Needed a new leader to restore its former glory
*Where, Oh where was he? Where could that man be?
*We looked around and then we found
*The man for you and me.
*And now it's...
*Springtime for Hitler and Germany
*Deutschland is happy and gay
*We're marching to a faster pace
*Look out, here comes the master race
*Springtime for Hitler and Germany
*Winter for Poland and France
*Springtime for Hitler and Germany
*Come on, Germans, go into your dance" - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPXHRX8Q2hs Springtime For Hitler - The Producers (1968)]
*"I'm gonna crash Poland, And I'm gonna take over France, Ba-willy-gow, Ba-Ba-do-the-this, Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! I'm gonna take over Poland, And then I'm gonna crush France, Oh baby, whatcha know, Mama, And I'm gonna cross that English Channel, Wow! And then I'm gonna kick them cats in the pants, Pow! Pow! Pow!" - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9slVttVHDAk "I lieb you, I lieb you!" - The Producers, 1968] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:13, November 17, 2022 (EST)
::On the downlow, [https://youtu.be/4pbtjBYyHxQ here's the type of 'Putin propaganda' the German's are waking up to now], and it offers a better explanation for what's happening to them now than the US/globalist media propaganda that controls them. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 15:27, November 17, 2022 (EST)
:::The truth is, Germany and Russia are natural allies, like the US is with Canada or Mexico. But the US and UK (whom the Russians and Germans call "Angelo-Saxons") have kept them apart through two world wars,and now a third, the [[NATO war in Ukraine]]. A German-Russian alliance would dwarf the British Empire or American global hegemony. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 15:42, November 17, 2022 (EST)
::::Historically, the relationship between Russia and the Anglo-Saxons has been dependent on the status of Western Europe. They are ALWAYS allies whenever Western Europe is dominated by a third power (Napoleon, the Kaiser, Hitler, etc.), and they are ALWAYS enemies otherwise.
::::Right now, Western Europe is essentially a vassal of the US, the dominant Anglo-Saxon power. Thus, Russia and the Anglo-Saxons are destined to remain enemies until that balance of power is disrupted.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 23:25, November 17, 2022 (EST)
:::::There is no reason Russia and Germany should not be close allies like the US & Mexico. Western powers, i.e. France & UK - not Germany, exploit the Poles, the Ukies, and Baltic states to sow tensions to prevent it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 07:24, November 18, 2022 (EST)
::::::Germany would exploit the Poles, the Ukrainians, and the Baltic states in a heartbeat if it was in a position to do so, but right now it isn't. Two countries stand in the way of that: the United States and France. The former is ''the'' dominant power of Western Europe, and the latter is more than powerful enough to counter German influence-building in the region even without the American military presence. And as long as the German government remains committed to its post-1945 policy of demilitarization, it will stay that way. --[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 16:49, November 18, 2022 (EST)
:::::::Not so sure about that; NATO has assigned Lithuania as Germany's [[sphere of influence]], not Poland. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 17:13, November 18, 2022 (EST)
:::::::Why do you think the Balts were so p-eed off about the [[Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact]] - they would rather have been on the [[Nazi]] side than the [[Soviet]] side during WWII. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 17:17, November 18, 2022 (EST)
:::::::And don't gimme this, 'they're as innocent as the driven snow' - they are sending Nazi reserves to Ukraine right now, tearing down Soviet war monuments to soldiers who defeated fascism, deny voting rights to Russians born in the Baltic states and treat them as second-class citizens. That's democracy, huh? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 17:21, November 18, 2022 (EST)
:::::::At the [[Wannsee Conference]], [[Eichmann]] & [[Heydrich]] declared the Baltic states "Judenfrei", "Jew-free", meaning it wasn't a problem for them and they didn't have to allocate a lot of manpower there. Most of the Jews left long before the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, and the local Nazis took care of the rest of them. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 17:26, November 18, 2022 (EST)
::::::::The ''Einsatzgruppen'' had been running riot in the Balts for ~6 months before Wannsee, you utter cretin. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:54, November 20, 2022 (EST)
:::::::::That's what I just said, troll. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 12:37, November 21, 2022 (EST)
:::::::::[https://www.liquisearch.com/schutzmannschaft Schutzmannshaft]. [[George Soros]] is probably the most famous, fingering his neighbors for Eichmann. The Ukrainian [[Teroborona]] performs the same function today. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 12:48, November 21, 2022 (EST)
{{quotebox-float|Those augmenting the Orpo/Ordnungspolizei (Order Police) were designated Schutzmannschaft (Protective Detachment) and '''eventually numbered some hundreds of thousands'''.
The Schutzmannschaft battalions, organized by nationality, Poles, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Russians, Estonians, Lithuanians, Latvians and Tatars. Each battalion had an authorized strength of about 500. '''Everywhere, local police far outnumbered the equivalent German personnel'''. For example, in the Brześć Litewski area, there were 26 German gendarmerie as opposed to 308 Belorussians. In the district of Baranowicze, there were 73 German gendarmerie and 816 native auxiliaries. By 1 July 1942, 18½ Ukrainian Schutzmannschaft battalions had been formed, with a further three battalions set up in Belarus mainly staffed by Ukrainians.
Local police units were moved freely around the occupied countries to engage with partisans or to kill Jews.}}
:::::::::The Ukrainian Einsatzgruppen just executed 39 more citizens. [https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/kiev-executes-39-pro-russian-activists-in-kherson---reports] The Russian Investigative Committees collecting evidence on the Nazi war criminals. [https://t.me/ghostnewsx/2728] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 12:56, November 21, 2022 (EST)
::::::::::No, that's not what you said. And if you weren't such an unspeakably lazy and feckless student of history, you'd've taken the ''seconds'' required to check Eichmann's Wannsee list and would know that a) only Estonia was declared ''judenfrei'' and b) he saw Lithuania as very much a work in progress (and one that required plenty of continued manpower). Primary sources ftw. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:45, November 21, 2022 (EST)
:::::::::::I stand corrected on the question of the Vilnius ghetto. The point Eichmann was making was that the local ''Hiwis'' had already done their housecalls to villages. The whole purpose of the conference was to announce a change in policy: the Einsatzgruppen didn't need to make home visits anymore. People would be herded into ghettos for transport elsewhere. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 19:36, November 21, 2022 (EST)
:::::::::::And the main point stands: German-Lithuanian coordination and cooperation (let's call it ''[[gleichschaltung]]'') in the military sphere has a more recent and deeper history than Polish-Lithuanian, unless you wanna count when the commie Nazi-hunters were in charge. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 20:35, November 21, 2022 (EST)
:::::::::::IOWs, when the public is finally informed that NATO is at war with Russia, it will be German, not neighboring Polish, American, UK, Canadian, Norwegian, French, Italian, Turkish or anybody else assigned to invade or occupy Lithuania. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 20:41, November 21, 2022 (EST)
Desperate companies do desperate things. The Christian-owned Chick-fil-A, Inc. gave KFC stiff competition.
And people wanting to avoid heart attacks, hypertension and cancer are now eating less fried chicken. KFC is one of the fast food chains and restaurant chains that are losing locations and market share. See: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z-Tqak6ydM The Decline of KFC...What Happened?]
KFC is not the first chicken chain to experience declining revenues and market share: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nB5H3Lx2_4 Top 20 Iconic Fast Food Chains That Dont Exist Anymore].
:KFC has a bit of an inspirational story. Colonel Harland Sanders, the original owner, was an ex-dish washer who was pretty broke at the age of 65. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i1pbW5YXfk HERE] is his inspirational story. You can also read about it at: [https://marksmendaily.com/2021/12/08/the-inspiring-life-story-of-kfcs-colonel-sanders/ The inspiring life story of KFC’s Colonel Sanders]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:01, November 21, 2022 (EST)
::Ahhh, we're not talking about KFC. We're talking about the insensitivity of a younger generation to the suffering of others and the facts of history. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 20:48, November 21, 2022 (EST)
==Trudeau/Xi==
The Trudeau/Xi clip is remarkable. Rarely have we ever seen a breakdown between two regimes in public like this. When Xi holds his hands up and says, "Let's create the conditions first", he's saying "I no longer trust you, and have no reason to trust you." So how does the Trudeau regime re-establish dialogue? They can't, so long as the Trudeau regime remains in power.
Incredible, [https://youtu.be/T8FuHuUhNZ0 Trudeau once praised the Chinese dictatorship in public.] The question is, ''How many years does an idiotic voting constituency want to waste before realizing they are governed by a pathetic fool and liar, or an incompetent opposition to to dispose of Trudeau?'' [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 20:33, November 17, 2022 (EST)
== I think this is newsworthy for the main page ==
https://www.liveaction.org/news/mobile-abortion-vans-churches/ There's no low that pro-death demmywhacks won't sink to. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 23:41, November 17, 2022 (EST)
:Can you find an article mainspace to add it to first? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 07:17, November 18, 2022 (EST)
== Hakeem Jeffries ==
In the last election, the Dems got significant mileage from their "threat to democracy"/"election denier" routine. But they don't believe a word of it. How do we know? Their top candidate for House leader claimed that Trump's election, his nominees for Supreme Court, and the opinions they reached are all "illegitmate." The appalling part is that he is a "centrist" among House Democrats. See "[https://redstate.com/sister-toldjah/2022/11/17/what-democrats-dont-want-you-to-know-about-hakeem-jeffries-n660259 What Democrats Don't Want You to Know About Hakeem Jeffries]." [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 06:19, November 18, 2022 (EST)
:Prediction: Kevin Mccarthy will hold a weekly press conference, but the Dem leader will hold daily conferences, dominating news headlines and shaping narratives. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 07:19, November 18, 2022 (EST)
:Here's what GOP politicians and leadership don't understand: reporters and news organizations have daily deadlines, so you have to throw them a bone everyday to keep them employed. Dems understand this and make friends by playing along. Republicans are so afraid of negative publicity and being caught in a trap, they run away.
:When Boehner, Ryan and Hastert were Speakers, they rarely spoke to the press, only when some pressing emergency arose or a weekly scheduled conference where the spoke about nothing of interest. Whereas Pelosi as Minority Leader still had daily conferences, if only to trash GOP leadership and presidents and boast about what she would do if she were king of the forest. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 17:43, November 18, 2022 (EST)
== Trump Back On Twitter ==
Urgent: Add To In The News
BREAKING: Trump back on Twitter.--[[User:TheNewRight|TheNewRight]] ([[User talk:TheNewRight|talk]]) 20:33, November 19, 2022 (EST)
:This is bad news for Trump; he invested what, $20 or $40 million in Truth Social? Now he has to layoff [[Devin Nunes]] and [[Kash Patal]]?... [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 20:36, November 19, 2022 (EST)
::Still, this is a massive setback for censorship and a victory for free speech.--[[User:TheNewRight|TheNewRight]] ([[User talk:TheNewRight|talk]]) 20:39, November 19, 2022 (EST)
:::Trump is not interested in tweeting at this time. Maybe he will later when it is closer to the presidential election. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:15, November 21, 2022 (EST)
== Bakhmut ==
Putin may have lost Izium and Kherson, but [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRjnbACvsXs he's betting the farm on another offensive], this time against Bakhmut. It hard to see how this idea can work out to his benefit. If Russia takes the city, it will be oligarch and Wagner Group boss Yevgeny Prigozhin who gets the credit. That can't be what Putin wants since Prigozhin is a loose canon who publicly criticizes the regular army and is already being mentioned as an alternative to Putin. The plan to take Bakhmut was drawn up as half of a pincer movement back when Russia held Izium. Now its one hand clapping. If Russia is in a position to take Bakhmut, why did it give up Kherson? The terrain worked against Russia in Kherson, but that is also true in Bakhmut. The Ukrainian artillery is firing from behind hills, a tactic called defilade. Perhaps Putin has been reduced to desperately hoping for a win somewhere, anywhere like Hitler in the Battle of Bulge. Bakhmut is a center of salt production. In Peter the Great's day, people built fortresses and fought battles to control the salt trade. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 15:06, November 21, 2022 (EST)
:The Battle of Atremorsk (''Ukrainian: Bakhmut'') has been going on all summer. Bakhmut, on the high ground is the key to the whole Donbass front. [[Avdiivka]], about 30 km outside [[Donetsk]] is the big problem. Avdivvka has been shelling Donetsk for 8 years, killing civilians. Avdiivka is dug in like the North Korea Demilitarized Zone.
:The pincer movement from Bakhmut will head south against Avdivvka (in addition to being able to retake the Russian cities of Kramatorsk to the NW, and a defensive movement to protect Lysychansk).
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|colspan="3"|<hr/>(left) Existing Kherson border (right) proposed new border by the Zelensky regime. [https://kurtnimmo.substack.com/p/russians-say-ukronazis-will-blow]
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:As to Kherson, the Ukies are currently evacuating the other half of the population which did not evacuate to Russia already. Apparently, at one point or other, one side or the other will finally destroy the Nova Kakohova dam and create a new border 15 kilometers wide using the Dnieper River between Russia and whatever is left of Ukraine or the "Polish Ukraine Commonwealth". This would leave the Russian city of Odessa under Ukrainian occupation. Kherson, like the ancient Egyptian city of Thebes when UUSR built the Aswan dam, will forever be underwater. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 15:24, November 21, 2022 (EST)
:Meantime, your sources are crap, and your spewing Nazi bs. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 15:25, November 21, 2022 (EST)
:The Russian objective is to destroy Ukraine/NATO military, not capture territory. The Russians will cede territory to lay a trap for a miliary that thinks it's all about capturing territory. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 15:27, November 21, 2022 (EST)
:As to Ulegedar on the [[Zaporozhye]] line, you have the same problem. It sits on the high ground, NATO/Ukraine has transferred about 40,000 troops from the Kherson front to Ulegedar and all along the Donbas front. From a military/strategic perspective, the best strategy is to try to invade Russia from Ulegedar and capture [[Mariupol]], splitting Russian forces in half. This not only is the most practical and strategic move, it's also the most dangerous and idiotic. It would guarantee Poland, Ramstein, Brussels, London, Washington, and probably New York getting nuked if it even came close to any success. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 15:36, November 21, 2022 (EST)
::PeterKa, Kherson is on the Western side of river and the Ukrainians attacked a bridge so it was difficult to feed a supply line to from the Eastern side. The Russians were smart to give it up because they were not using it to attack another place. "The history of war proves that nine out of ten times an army has been destroyed because its supply lines have been cut off...” - General [[Douglas MacArthur]] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:47, November 21, 2022 (EST)
:::The city of Kherson likely will be no more, with the new border 15 km behind it.
:::Oh, and the idiot from the Military and Foreign Affairs Network was wrong. He said the subways of Kharkov would create problems for Russia in an urban environment with their ability to move troops around. Duh, the subways are electric. And these are the idiots who've been giving their "expert" analysis since February.
:::Frankly, I'm really getting tired and losing patience over listening to this Nazi bs and propaganda we've been subjected to since February. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 15:52, November 21, 2022 (EST)
::::Nearly all the Nazis are dead and buried. Now there are neo-Nazis. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:01, November 21, 2022 (EST)
:::::Nah, these are old school Nazis the US supports in their beliefs and value system. Neo-Nazis are just wannabees. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 16:06, November 21, 2022 (EST)
::::::[https://www.bitchute.com/video/dl9eMylKRrD8/ WAGNER CAPTURED UKRO-NAZI INTELLIGENCE OFFICER - SPEAKS ABOUT HIS LOVE FOR HITLER AND NAZIS].
::::::I can't wait to see Biden, [[Jake Sullivan]], and [[Jens Stoltenberg]] explain themselves to this group of interrogators. They'll get a fair hearing and trial. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 18:44, November 21, 2022 (EST)
::::::[https://www.bitchute.com/video/LvTjL4RHn3BQ/ AMERICAN MERCENARY RETURNED FROM UKRAINE - HAS VERY EYE OPENING WORDS ABOUT HIS SERVICE THERE]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 18:55, November 21, 2022 (EST)
::::Kherson was probably an original "Potemkin Village". Potemkin was buried there. The Russians took the stature to [[Catherine the Great]], who founded the city, and Potemkin's bones with them. What does that tell you? They were (legitimately) afraid of Nazi vandalism, or they plan on destroying the dam and burying alive 25,000 NATO troops? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 16:14, November 21, 2022 (EST)
:::::TL;DR regarding all the recent extensive updates filled with jargon. I caught up with the news on the rocket attack in Poland which was evidently perpetrated by the Ukrainian puppet government. What else is going on in the war between Russo-imperialists and Ukrofascists? —[[User:Liberaltears|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|<sup>(The Old Right was right!)</sup>]]''''' Monday, 16:23, November 21, 2022 (EST)
::::::Na-zilensky is on the way out; if his Nazi bodyguards don't get him first, he's soon to take his looted millions and flee. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 16:27, November 21, 2022 (EST)
:::::::That reminds me, it's funny that most leftists think it's "antisemitic" to highlight Zelensky's evil ties simply because of his Jewish heritage. It's essentially a variation of the "friend argument," akin to their other forms of left-wing deception like "Margaret Sanger had black friends" or "BLM is supported by Jewish organizations." [https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/zelenskyy-is-not-a-jewish-hero/ This op-ed] in ''The Times of Israel'' brilliantly summarizes the matter. —[[User:Liberaltears|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|<sup>(The Old Right was right!)</sup>]]''''' Monday, 16:33, November 21, 2022 (EST)
::::::::The guy who plotted the [[Final Solution]] was Jewish. So is [[Soros]].
::::::::I've been reluctant to add the poop I got on Na-ziensky's successor, [[Valerii Zaluzhnyi]]. He has girlfriends all over Ukraine 20 years younger as he rides around pretending to be [[commander-in-chief]], but it'll just be accused of being Russian propaganda. By the time [[Mark Milley]] and Biden regime hail him as the courageous new leader and defender of democracy, we should have some more sourcing. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 16:37, November 21, 2022 (EST)
:::::::::Can you elaborate on who you're referring to when you say "The guy who plotted the Final Solution was Jewish?"--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 01:30, November 23, 2022 (EST)
::::::::::[[Heydrich]]. But I don't want to get into a lengthy back and forth rehash of the evidence. I base my judgement and opinion on the fact that he believed it was so. I'm not trying to force my view or opinion on the matter on anyone, as I realize it is controversial. I don't believe there is any reference to it in his CP bio, and if it appears someday, I would carefully make sure all opposing views were represented, and allow readers to make their own considered judgement, and not impose my own opinion on the matter, which is exactly that, a considered judgment and opinion based upon years of extensive reading on the subject. As I said, I believe it cause I believe he believed it, which means both of us could be wrong. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 04:50, November 23, 2022 (EST)
::::::::[https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZJN9FfuNhLXU/ Polish Man Tells Zelensky What He Thinks About His Falseflag].
::::::::Here's the glorious thing about modern social media and internet - we don't have to have ideas and discussion filtered through MSM and intelligence services - we can get an inkling of public opinion and reaction directly from the horse's mouth. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 14:33, November 22, 2022 (EST)
In case anyone here cares, Bakhmut is easy to explain. Wagner has a contract with the Russian gov. that stipulates a price per formation (men + materiel, etc.) delivered into action. PMCs obviously exist to make money, so there'll always be a healthy margin attached and, if tactical / strategic results are factored in at all, it'll be in the form of bonus payments, rather than any scaling / clawback on the (profitable) basic rate.
'''tl;dr:''' Prigozhin makes money whether or not these formations get obliterated or achieve anything militarily useful, so it's always in his interest to keep recruiting & feeding the meatgrinder.
Helluva way to make a living. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:16, November 21, 2022 (EST)
:Oh, maybe Russia was better off before it introduced capitalism and the profit motive? Is that what you're saying? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 18:23, November 21, 2022 (EST)
::I don't know what you're complaining about. Wagner mercs make a little under $1,000 a month. NATO mercs make $3,000 (unless they're from Africa, then about $2,000}. What? It's unholy for Russians to pay $1,000 a month but sacred for the US Congress through Zelensky to pay $3,000? Oh, I forget, I'm speaking with a [[Russophobic]] [[bigot]]s. Pardon me. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 23:57, November 25, 2022 (EST)
:'''Update:''' [https://youtu.be/Bz7jzQgeiIo The 58th Separate Motorized Infantry Brigade of Armed Forces of Ukraine in Bakhmut, said they were in a desperate situation against invading Russian forces of PMC Wagner Group. The unit appealed to Volodymyr Zelenskyy as the president of Ukraine and to Valeriy Fezerevich as Commander-in-Chief of the National Security Service to solve their problem. Sources posted on social media on November 24, they withdrew from their assigned positions despite the danger during the execution of orders. But they stepped back from their positions to protect their lives.]
:[https://www.bitchute.com/video/sV8PTdsI3JOX/ UKROIDS IN BAKHMUT EXPERIENCE EARLY RUSSIAN CHRISTMAS]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 17:53, November 24, 2022 (EST)
:'''Update:''' A lot of war news happening today. You won't be able to catch up by Monday. Nobody told them today is holiday, or tomorrow Black Friday, or the weekend is for rest. By Monday when MSM and intelligence propagandists start broadcasting their cover stories for how the situation has changed, it'll be unrecognizable from how Westerners think they understand the war now. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 23:15, November 24, 2022 (EST)
:'''Bakhmut update:''' [[Prigozhin]] has pretty well spelled out to the Ukraine public what the objective in Bakhmut is: another [[Verdun]]. So, let's say the troops recruited from prison cannot sustain a kill ratio of 7:1 that the Russians have enjoyed since February, and that falls to 5:1. The Ukrainian public already knows they cannot win a war of attrition against Russia, but Russia's throwing its human garbage from prison into the fight, and Ukraine now will be losing its upstanding citizens, fathers and grandfathers (cause the flower of the nation has already been lost) into the fight. Is it worth losing 5 dads for every one Russian prison con, murderer, or drug addict? You decide. Zelensky doesn't care, and it's all being done on your dime. But the Russians are willing to go all winter at it, while the US and NATO are out of weapons and ammunition (even before the big fight at Taiwan starts). So, we can keep printing dollar bills for Zelensky to [[kickback]] into Democrat campaign coffers, to sign [[MIC]] contracts for delivery in 2 or 3 years, and continue to destroy the US, European, and your own personal economic situation. Or you can repent, come to Jesus, and say "I will not support [[Nazism]] any longer." It's a decision each one of us must make. The outcome is dependent on you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 05:16, November 28, 2022 (EST)
:Oh, and when Prigozhin takes over, you're going to long for the days of Putin. He doesn't like Nazis any more than Stalin of Putin did, least of all Nazis like [[Robert Mueller]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 05:18, November 28, 2022 (EST)
:'''Update:''' Alexander Mercouris responds to MSM racist attacks alleging Ukrainian democracy defenders against Russian asiatic hordes. [https://youtu.be/QzXhhuT2aFU?t=289]
===Reading the tea leaves===
Notorious Nazi bigot and [[holocaust denier]], former Ukrainian Ambassador to Germany [[Andriy Melnyk]], [https://archive.ph/trYTE] was recalled from Berlin to Kyiv back in July. Melynk now has been promoted to Deputy Foreign Minister of Ukraine. [https://newsrnd.com/news/2022-11-18-ukraine--ex-ambassador-andriy-melnyk-is-now-deputy-foreign-minister.SJkZf8rLs.html]
Rather than being disciplined for outrageous conduct, [https://twitter.com/Dostojewski1821/status/1587523611442675717] he's been promoted.
'''Interpretation:''' As Ukraine is on the ropes, the [[Nazi]]s in the regime are gaining strength and power internally in the government. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 20:07, November 24, 2022 (EST)
:So, Mark Milley has disassociated himself from the deadenders like Sullivan, Blinken, Zelensky, Melnyk, BoJo, [[Ursula von der Leyen]] and other Nazis who want to die with the Fuhrer in the bunker. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 20:22, November 24, 2022 (EST)
:What would have happened, can you imagine, if Hitler suddenly called timeout and asked for peace talks when the Russians were 30 miles outside Berlin? A point is crossed in war were talking doesn't matter or happen anymore, and when NATO sets up a "Russian regime-in-exile", that pretty much invokes [[Russia#Nuclear_Doctrine|Russia's own nuclear doctrine]] allowing a first nuclear strike when existence of the state is threatened. Say goodbye to the European Union, Putin's putative successor has formally dissolved it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 20:35, November 24, 2022 (EST)
:Oh, but you say, 'That was 1945. With modern weapons and technology, no way could Russia ever march 2,400 miles from Stalingrad to Berlin.' See how Western propaganda has rotted your mind? And they don't have to march or occupy Berlin. With modern weapons and technology, there are other ways to deal with Brussels or the Pentagon. Bakhmut is nothing. And talking has stopped. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 20:41, November 24, 2022 (EST)
::You might have a point re. attrition if your boys could have mustered a kill ratio anywhere near 1:1, never mind your crazy numbers. Instead, the cream & most of the fresh milk of the Russian army has already been poured out into the soil of Ukraine, and what's left has curdled into something so toxic and ineffectual that no amount of topping-up is going to restore it as an effective fighting force in the next few years.
::Mobilise all you want. You can't train them up. You can't properly equip them. You can't even reliably provide adequate food, clothing & shelter. This winter is going to kill so many mobiks so quickly that we might even see some serious goodwill gestures in time for the Russian Orthodox Christmas. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:30, November 28, 2022 (EST)
:::You're obviously another victim of [[ISW]] propaganda. Go ahead, try and plead that before a de-nazification tribunal, see how far it gets you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 20:21, November 28, 2022 (EST)
== Time to uphold Conservapedia Commandment #5 ==
[[Conservapedia:Commandments|Per the commandments]]: "Do not post personal opinion on an encyclopedia entry. Opinions can be posted on Talk:pages or on debate or discussion pages. Advertisements are prohibited.".
Why is one particular administrator constantly intent on advertising his own essays on MPR? It directly violates the rules, pollutes the Main Page news flow with unnecessary spam, and is repetitive to the point of senselessly vain due to the same "read our essay" slogan. —[[User:Liberaltears|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|<sup>(The Old Right was right!)</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 20:43, November 21, 2022 (EST)
:I like this idea. We should form [[Conservapedia:Fact Check Committee]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 21:10, November 21, 2022 (EST)
:I nominate myself as Chief Fact Checker. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 21:12, November 21, 2022 (EST)
::I understand your criticism. Scarcely a day goes by without an attack on the United Kingdom. And what's the chief source for factual information? The Encyclopedia ''Britannica'', from the land of [[Darwin]] and rot. Surely there are viable alternative sources of authoritive information coming from other than the land of gay buffets and salad bars? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 21:24, November 21, 2022 (EST)
:::Yes, a fact-checking committee would be excellent; I second your nomination as chief fact checker. And the main reason that particular administrator is so heavily antagonizing the UK is because that's the home country of one atheist he wants to hurt the feelings of. Perhaps he should instead abide by the messages of Christ and partake in the Great Commission through decency and tolerance. —[[User:Liberaltears|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|<sup>(The Old Right was right!)</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 21:29, November 21, 2022 (EST)
::::I just don't understand how the ''Encyclopedia Brittanica'' is such an authoritive source coming from the land Darwin. I think it's only cited cause he thinks its an alternative to Wikipedia. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 21:34, November 21, 2022 (EST)
:::::Wow, so he will cite almost anything that's not Wikipedia? What next? I mean, just ''imagine'' if he went to the point of competing with Social Darwinists on their own ground by citing junk "science" to disparage particular groups of people as "mutants" and almost insinuate them with inferiority. Oh wait, he already did that. Given that Conservapedia's article on [[Liberal]] deems bigotry to be a liberal trait, I guess that means the said administrator is thus an ultra-liberal due to his immense bigotry. —[[User:Liberaltears|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|<sup>(The Old Right was right!)</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 21:39, November 21, 2022 (EST)
::::::(ec) Both my parents were teachers, and I learned from them the hardest task on the planet is to teach someone how to think. It took me years to master the basics of how to think, let alone try to teach someone else. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 21:43, November 21, 2022 (EST)
:::::And no, it's not that he'll cite anything, it's an appeal to authority or argument from authority, a phrase or concept he picked up in one of his many <s>logic classes</s> arguments with ratrolls. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 21:46, November 21, 2022 (EST)
:::::He's basically saying ''Britanica'' is superior to ''Wikipedia'' as an instant internet source, while at the same time arguing that anything that comes out of Britian is defiled and corrupt because of Darwin. So where does that leave America? We have Conservapedia, but he's not picking up the challenge to make it authoritive. Nor the interest to do so. Only attacking his perceived personal enemies. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 21:51, November 21, 2022 (EST)
:::::And it wouldn't be so easy to paraphrase his content contributions if he wasn't so dang repetitious and redundant. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 21:54, November 21, 2022 (EST)
::::::[EC] Yeah, his screeds are regurgitated, really don't make much sense, and lack consistency. I suppose by the standards of Conservapedia, he's only exemplifying more liberal traits to the point of reaching pinko commie levels. —[[User:Liberaltears|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|<sup>(The Old Right was right!)</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 22:00, November 21, 2022 (EST)
:::::(ec) Take myself, for example; I'm the guy known far and wide in the wiki world as the guy who tried to rehabilitate [[McCarthyism]] which labeled innocent people "Russian stooges" with my Wikipedia [[Venona project]] series; now anyone who tries to label me as a "Russian stooge" is an expression of their own ignorance. I speak from authority. So as an "author", the root word of "authority", redundancy is one of your worst enemies. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 22:06, November 21, 2022 (EST)
::::You and I discussed the other day how defunding the war means splitting the Patriot Movement between gung ho flag waving redneck killers and peaceniks. He's afraid to confront this question head on, which doesn't bode well for innocent Ukrainian citizens slain by a corrupt regime and U.S. tax dollars. He doesn't recognize the leader of the anti-globalist [[gay agenda]] movement, Mr. [[Vladimir Putin]]. He's content to go along with the liberal crowd. His [[Homosexual agenda]] and [[Atheism]] articles has garnered 14 million views, yet he's content to go along with atheists and gays in their demonization of Putin. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 22:22, November 21, 2022 (EST)
:::::That's because he's a Protestant supremacist. People like him view apostolic sects like Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Oriental Orthodoxy, and the Church of the East with such contempt that he'd gladly align with non-Christian and even anti-Christian movements against them out of spite.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 01:38, November 23, 2022 (EST)
The Europeans are dragging us into supporting another war in Europe. As such, some healthy criticism of the UK/Europe is warranted. If nobody criticizes the Europeans, perhaps they will never reform themselves. Andy Schlafly has criticized the Brits in the past. Was he wrong in doing so? I don't think so! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 02:43, November 23, 2022 (EST)
::The US started the war in Europe with the fascist overthrow of a democratic government. The US forced Europe to accept American sanctions on Russia, or be faced with the same sanctions. The US destroyed the [[Nordstream]] pipeline, causing fuel shortages, high energy prices, inflation, bankruptcies, and unemployment in Europe. The US has provided $65 billion in weapons and aid, keeping a defeated, zombie regime alive. The EU has contributed only $3 billion.
::You are poorly informed, my friend. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 05:06, November 23, 2022 (EST)
:*'''''"The Europeans are dragging us into supporting another war in Europe."'''''
:This statement is a blatant, bald face falsehood. The facts are exactly the opposite. The United States dragged Europe into a war with Russia. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 21:44, November 24, 2022 (EST)
:[[Victoria Nuland]] said as much when the United States overthrew a [[democracy|democratically]] elected government that started the war: "F*** the EU." [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 21:47, November 24, 2022 (EST)
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:::Ultimately, the Ukrainians chose to wish to join NATO which was like waving a red cape in front of the Russian bull. Furthermore, nobody has more influence on Ukrainian politics than the Ukrainians. For example, if the Ukrainians make bad political choices in terms of their voting, it is partly the fault of their weak educational system (In 2021, the Ukrainian educational was ranked 40th in the world[https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/education-rankings-by-country] In 2010, the British economist Frances Cairncross stated "Ukrainian education is too inward-looking, too corrupt and too poor to do a good job".). To use an analogy, the American educational system is weak and spends to much time indoctrinating people into liberalism/leftism/wokism and that aids the Democrats.
:::In addition, bullies attack weaklings. One of the big reasons why the bully Vladimir Putin attacked Ukraine is that their closest geographic allies the Europeans are weak. Given that the USA has its historical roots in Europe, I am sad to say that many Europeans are effete, [[liberal]]/[[leftism|leftist]], godless pantywaists who are shortsighted and became too dependent on Russian oil and gas (See also: [[Atheism and cowardice]] and [[Atheism and mental toughness]] and [[Atheism and foolishness]]). The psalmist [[David]] declared: "The fool says in his heart, 'There is no God.' They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is none who does good." — [[Psalms]] 14:1 ([[English Standard Version|ESV]]) {{Unsigned|User:Conservative|talk}} [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=next&oldid=1904778]
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:P.S. The Brit who formerly was my biggest detractor on the internet is an agnostic and not an atheist. Anyways, I am not going to write about him further and in all likelihood he is going to do likewise concerning me. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 03:03, November 23, 2022 (EST)
::Regardless, now that I have finished my essay series on the Russia-Ukraine War, I don't expect to post a lot about the UK or Europe for a considerable amount of time. When something is in decline, perhaps it is best to largely ignore it and let it slip into the sea. Such is the case with the SS UK and SS Europe (See: [[Decline of Europe]]). But I will not completely give up the idea of hope or future prayers for Europe. Sometimes people/nations have to experience a lot of pain and hit bottom before they sober up and repent. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 03:17, November 23, 2022 (EST)
:::The Apostle Paul quoted a prominent Cretan to upbraid the Cretans (Titus, 1:12–14). So I feel perfectly fine quoting the ''Encyclopedia Britannica'' as far as the collapse of the British Empire. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 03:27, November 23, 2022 (EST)
::::As far as the charge that I am a "Protestant supremacist", there are some good things the very conservative Catholics (Like Latin Mass), Eastern Orthodoxy, Oriental Orthodoxy, and the Church of the East are doing right that many Protestants and conservative Protestants are not doing. But on the whole, I believe more good fruit has come out of the conservative Protestants than other branches of Christianity (See: [[Protestant cultural legacies]]). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 03:38, November 23, 2022 (EST)