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:I was wondering about that myself. It seems to be a suggestion that World War II was caused by world population outstripping resources, and brought back into balance by the war... but a graph of [http://edweb.sdsu.edu/wip/examples/gas2/idnex.htm U. S. population] looks pretty smooth, as does [http://www.nss.org/settlement/nasa/Contest/Results/2005/TEMIS/Population%20Design_files/image069.jpg world population]. There's a bit of a downward kink in U. S. population around World War II, but it isn't preceded by any obvious upward kink. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 09:53, 12 June 2007 (EDT)
:I was wondering about that myself. It seems to be a suggestion that World War II was caused by world population outstripping resources, and brought back into balance by the war... but a graph of [http://edweb.sdsu.edu/wip/examples/gas2/idnex.htm U. S. population] looks pretty smooth, as does [http://www.nss.org/settlement/nasa/Contest/Results/2005/TEMIS/Population%20Design_files/image069.jpg world population]. There's a bit of a downward kink in U. S. population around World War II, but it isn't preceded by any obvious upward kink. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 09:53, 12 June 2007 (EDT)
::Since the graphs' axes aren't labeled anyway, I think we can go ahead and read into them whatever we wish. [[User:Frederick|Frederick]] 10:49, 12 June 2007 (EDT)
::Since the graphs' axes aren't labeled anyway, I think we can go ahead and read into them whatever we wish. [[User:Frederick|Frederick]] 10:49, 12 June 2007 (EDT)
:Thank you, Rob, for adding more citations. I'll spend some time looking at them to see if they support your assertion. Just remember that just because a document contains the words "new" and "ordeal" does not mean they were used to refer to "The New Deal". Also, if a ref is this obscure that we still haven't settled it over several days, perhaps you should just take full credit where it is due (as you have clearly worked hard on this) and call it an original work.[[User:Frederick|Frederick]] 11:13, 12 June 2007 (EDT)