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, 18:15, August 22, 2023World War I, World War II, and Korea
::IOWs, there has been a complete reversal of roles in America: the children and grandchildren of commie subversives of the McCarthy era, Vietnam war protesters and draft dodgers, Democrats and assorted leftists, etc., now are in control of the Deep State, and conservative Republicans are out. The hunted have become the hunters. Like the KKK up to the [[New Deal]] era, they perceive the [[Republican party]] as the greatest [[national security]] threat to America, not any foreign influence like the Comintern, "Russia", the [[Peoples Republic of China]], Islamic terrorism, etc. To the extent they engage in warmongering rhetoric against Russia and China, they only seek to unify the country under Democrat control. The neocons, smaller in number, are a different subject. The neocons are in alliance with these commie deep staters for similar objects; however the neocon focus remains on foreign enemies, and they can be seen as manipulating the Democrat commie deep staters (like [[AOC]] or [[Bernie Sanders]], for example). Both factions enjoy control of the biggest [[boondoggle]] of all, the [[military industrial complex]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 07:31, August 22, 2023 (EDT)
::IOWs, there has been a complete reversal of roles in America: the children and grandchildren of commie subversives of the McCarthy era, Vietnam war protesters and draft dodgers, Democrats and assorted leftists, etc., now are in control of the Deep State, and conservative Republicans are out. The hunted have become the hunters. Like the KKK up to the [[New Deal]] era, they perceive the [[Republican party]] as the greatest [[national security]] threat to America, not any foreign influence like the Comintern, "Russia", the [[Peoples Republic of China]], Islamic terrorism, etc. To the extent they engage in warmongering rhetoric against Russia and China, they only seek to unify the country under Democrat control. The neocons, smaller in number, are a different subject. The neocons are in alliance with these commie deep staters for similar objects; however the neocon focus remains on foreign enemies, and they can be seen as manipulating the Democrat commie deep staters (like [[AOC]] or [[Bernie Sanders]], for example). Both factions enjoy control of the biggest [[boondoggle]] of all, the [[military industrial complex]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 07:31, August 22, 2023 (EDT)
:::Let's examine the term "deep state." The second half of the term is the word "state". In a political context, a "state" cannot be held together by anything other than solid, centralized institutions. This means that by default, defining the Deep State requires singling out a collection of institutions as forming its core. And again, many of the modern Deep State institutions didn't exist in 1917, 1941, or 1950.
:::With this in mind, I believe that it would make more sense to label whatever existed in 1917, 1941, and 1950 as a distinct ''predecessor'' to the Deep State, much like how the realms of pre-1648 Europe can be considered distinct predecessors to their modern, Westphalian nation-state counterparts.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 14:15, August 22, 2023 (EDT)