Block, Siteadmin, SkipCaptcha, Upload, Automoderated users, delete, edit, move, nsTeam2RO, nsTeam2RW, nsTeam2_talkRO, nsTeam2_talkRW, protect, rollback, Administrators, template
294,193
edits
Changes
Jump to navigation
Jump to search
Line 42:
Line 42: +
Talk:Wars provoked by Deep State (view source)
Revision as of 18:23, August 22, 2023
, 18:23, August 22, 2023→World War I, World War II, and Korea
:::Let's examine the term "deep state." The second half of the term is the word "state". In a political context, a "state" cannot be held together by anything other than solid, centralized institutions. This means that by default, defining the Deep State requires singling out a collection of institutions as forming its core. And again, many of the modern Deep State institutions didn't exist in 1917, 1941, or 1950.
:::Let's examine the term "deep state." The second half of the term is the word "state". In a political context, a "state" cannot be held together by anything other than solid, centralized institutions. This means that by default, defining the Deep State requires singling out a collection of institutions as forming its core. And again, many of the modern Deep State institutions didn't exist in 1917, 1941, or 1950.
:::With this in mind, I believe that it would make more sense to label whatever existed in 1917, 1941, and 1950 as a distinct ''predecessor'' to the Deep State, much like how the realms of pre-1648 Europe can be considered distinct predecessors to their modern, Westphalian nation-state counterparts.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 14:15, August 22, 2023 (EDT)
:::With this in mind, I believe that it would make more sense to label whatever existed in 1917, 1941, and 1950 as a distinct ''predecessor'' to the Deep State, much like how the realms of pre-1648 Europe can be considered distinct predecessors to their modern, Westphalian nation-state counterparts.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 14:15, August 22, 2023 (EDT)
::::Well yes, but these institutions "partner" with outside institutions, like Twitter, Google, Microsoft, Raytheon, Blackwater, (or even Wuhan lab) etc. Then you also have the "donor class" who [[kickback]] the proceeds of government contracts to legislators, who appropriate the money to executive branch agencies that award contracts. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 14:23, August 22, 2023 (EDT)