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The church fathers? Who? The Apostolic Fathers or the Nicene-era Fathers?

The church fathers? Who? The Apostolic Fathers or the Nicene-era Fathers?

The Great Commission has nothing to do with taking over secular governments and turning them into mouthpieces for "Christian" doctrine. There is not one verse in the entire New Testament where the Apostles advocate such a theocratic ideology. If antiquity (plus the 1,260 years of sheer papal rule) has proven anything, it is that theocracy destroys humanity rather than uplifting it. The early Zionist ultranationalists, whose concept of theocracy, liberty, and "rebellion = godliness," and who were antithetical to Jesus (remember, many of the Jews thought the Messiah would overthrow the Romans and establish a Jewish utopia on Earth), parallels modern-day "Christian Nationalism"—history isn't kind to infamous rebels Judas of Galilee and Simon bar Kokhba, nor will it be to Donald Trump and "right-wing" populists. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|^{Rev. 22:13}]]''''' Monday, 11:32, September 11, 2023 (EDT)

The Great Commission has nothing to do with taking over secular governments and turning them into mouthpieces for "Christian" doctrine. There is not one verse in the entire New Testament where the Apostles advocate such a theocratic ideology. If antiquity (plus the [https://amazingdiscoveries.org/S-deception_end-time_Antichrist_Daniel_1260_prophecy 1,260 years] of sheer papal rule) has proven anything, it is that theocracy destroys humanity rather than uplifting it. The early Zionist ultranationalists, whose concept of theocracy, liberty, and "rebellion = godliness," and who were antithetical to Jesus (remember, many of the Jews thought the Messiah would overthrow the Romans and establish a Jewish utopia on Earth), parallels modern-day "Christian Nationalism"—history isn't kind to infamous rebels Judas of Galilee and Simon bar Kokhba, nor will it be to Donald Trump and "right-wing" populists. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|^{Rev. 22:13}]]''''' Monday, 11:32, September 11, 2023 (EDT)