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:::<big>'''Zelensky being a Nazi sympathizer has already been added to [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia_proven_right&diff=1987401&oldid=1983087 Conservapedia proven correct]. If you have problem with that, take it up it Andy.'''</big> [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 05:11, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

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===Socialist movements and antisemitism: a brief review of the history===

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Hi Karajou, I see you're skeptical of the notion of that Ukraine is overrun with Nazis from the top-down because it's leader happens to be a Jew. Since the question here is whether Zelensky's government can be designated as "National ''Socialist''," I believe it's useful to evaluate the history surrounding socialism and the Jews.

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So first of all, Marxism was antisemitic to its core—religiously and economically motivated. ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZh01xRO_Qg&pp=ygUWa2FybCBtYXJ4IGFudGlzZW1pdGlzbQ%3D%3D this video] sums it up well) Of course, since it was attacking the Jews on basis of religion and economics and not ''race'', ethnic Jews who were "self-hating" and converted from Judaism to Marxism were acceptable, however. That is precisely why there were [https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/american-jews-idealize-soviet-communism atheist Jews] who became Communists—already disenchanted with Judaism, they were happy to serve the false god Baal- er, I mean, Marx. Of course, the Soviet Union's antisemitism was nonetheless manifested in persecution towards religious Jews, prohibiting ritual circumcision (probably why they had higher penile cancer rates; for more information, see: [[Antisemitism, atheistic Communism, and penile cancer]]).

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Nazism is an outgrowth strain of Marxism. (see: [[Communist origins of Nazism]]) Hitler and his chauffeur Schreck were members of the Communist Bavarian Soviet Republic in the 1910s, and the fuhrer himself admitted that the only difference between Marxism and Nazism was economics vs. race; his own words: "If the National Socialist Movement should fail to understand the fundamental importance of this essential principle [race], if it should merely varnish the external appearance of the present State and adopt the majority principle, it would really do nothing more than compete with Marxism on its own ground." (Mein Kampf, vol. 2, ch. 4)

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Marxist antisemitism = religious and economic hatred of Judaism; Nazi antisemitism = ethnic hatred of Jews, period. But again, to socialists, a Jew who converts from Judaism to socialism is acceptable. Even in the case of the Nazis, Jews who apostatized to openly supporting Nazi ideology were spared from the Holocaust, just as atheistic Communist Jews were spared from Soviet pogroms; [https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/ellen-feldman-nazi-germany this article] by ''Tablet'' sums it up well. And ''even as it concerns neo-Nazis too'', yes, [https://allthatsinteresting.com/daniel-burros some turned out to be ethnic Jews].

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And to get to the point about Zelensky: does him being an ethnic Jew automatically prove his government isn't Nazi-ridden? From a nuanced historical perspective, no. At the end of the day, he is [https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/zelenskyy-is-not-a-jewish-hero/ not a Jewish hero]. The evidence of his open collaboration with the far-left, Nazi-aligned paramilitary group [[Azov Battalion]] is overwhelming and widely easy to find on the internet. And no, I don't support Putin by any means. I oppose both sides of the war, and see it as a Hegelian deception game to pave the way for a greater, final menace facing humanity soon. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Sunday, 09:50, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

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