Changes

3,363 bytes added ,  01:45, January 12, 2024
Line 223: Line 223:  
:::Nishant, seriously, you need to do some studying. These two sentences: "More and more of the evil that the Talmud teaches is coming to Light. You can either educate yourself about Jewish Supremacist ideologies that view "Goyim" or Gentiles as sub-human cattle and want to kill or enslave millions of us" could have came straight out of ''Mein Kampf''. Seriously. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 15:14, January 11, 2024 (EST)
 
:::Nishant, seriously, you need to do some studying. These two sentences: "More and more of the evil that the Talmud teaches is coming to Light. You can either educate yourself about Jewish Supremacist ideologies that view "Goyim" or Gentiles as sub-human cattle and want to kill or enslave millions of us" could have came straight out of ''Mein Kampf''. Seriously. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 15:14, January 11, 2024 (EST)
 
The Jewish Virtual Library website (The website is run by the American-Israeli Cooperative Enterprise) indicates: "Since talmudic literature spans over half a millennium, covering a wide geographic area, attitudes toward gentiles expressed in it vary considerably. In fact, it reveals a whole spectrum of opinions from the extreme antipathy of the tormented Jew of Hadrian's time – e.g., Simeon b. Yoḥai's statement: The best of gentiles should be killed (TJ, Kid. 4:11, 66c) – to the moderate views expressed in the more friendly atmosphere of early Sassanid Babylon – witness Samuel's making no distinction between Israel and the nations on the Day of Judgment (TJ, RH 1:3, 57a). Thus all such statements must be seen in their specific geographical-historical context. Nevertheless, in general it may be said that the Jew's attitude toward the gentile was largely conditioned by the gentile's attitude toward him (see Esth. R. 2:3), so that a gentile's friendship to a Jew would be warmly and uninhibitedly reciprocated (see BK 38a, and witness the relationships between Meir and Avnimos ha-Gardi, Judah ha-Nasi and Antoninus, Samuel and Sapor, etc.)."[https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/gentile] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:31, January 11, 2024 (EST)
 
The Jewish Virtual Library website (The website is run by the American-Israeli Cooperative Enterprise) indicates: "Since talmudic literature spans over half a millennium, covering a wide geographic area, attitudes toward gentiles expressed in it vary considerably. In fact, it reveals a whole spectrum of opinions from the extreme antipathy of the tormented Jew of Hadrian's time – e.g., Simeon b. Yoḥai's statement: The best of gentiles should be killed (TJ, Kid. 4:11, 66c) – to the moderate views expressed in the more friendly atmosphere of early Sassanid Babylon – witness Samuel's making no distinction between Israel and the nations on the Day of Judgment (TJ, RH 1:3, 57a). Thus all such statements must be seen in their specific geographical-historical context. Nevertheless, in general it may be said that the Jew's attitude toward the gentile was largely conditioned by the gentile's attitude toward him (see Esth. R. 2:3), so that a gentile's friendship to a Jew would be warmly and uninhibitedly reciprocated (see BK 38a, and witness the relationships between Meir and Avnimos ha-Gardi, Judah ha-Nasi and Antoninus, Samuel and Sapor, etc.)."[https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/gentile] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:31, January 11, 2024 (EST)
 +
::::'''One of the old infamous persecution of Jews by using Talmud text erroneously, was the Beilis Trial. Which ended in embrassament for the prosecutors for ignorance.'''
 +
 +
<i>The trial of Beilis took place in Kiev from September 25 through October 28, 1913. The chief prosecutor A.I. Vipper made anti-Jewish statements in his closing address and defended the Cheberiak gang against the charge of Yushchinsky's murder. Beilis was represented by the most able counsels of the Moscow, St. Petersburg, and Kiev bars: Vassily Maklakov, Oscar O. Grusenberg, N.P. Karabchevsky, A.S. Zarundy, and D.N. Grigorovitch-Barsky. The lamplighter and his wife, on whose testimony the indictment of Beilis rested, when questioned by the presiding judge, answered, "We know nothing at all." They confessed that both had been confused by the secret police and made to answer questions they did not comprehend. "Scientific" foundation for the blood libel was supplied at the trial by a Catholic priest with a criminal record, Justin Pranaitis, who stated that the murder of Yushchinsky had all the characteristics of ritual murder enjoined by the Jewish religion. His arguments were refuted by the rabbi of Moscow, Jacob *Mazeh , who proved that Pranaitis was ignorant of the talmudic texts cited. Two Russian professors of high standing, Troitsky and Kokovtzoff, also spoke on behalf of the defense in praise of Jewish values and exposed the falsity of the ritual murder hypothesis. The jury, composed of simple Russian peasants, after several hours of deliberation unanimously declared Beilis "not guilty."</i>
 +
[https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/menahem-mendel-beilis JVL].
 +
 +
Expedia cites this
 +
[https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2363483/jewish/In-Defense-of-Chassidism.htm link].
 +
 +
The Bible, in Ezekiel.34.31:
 +
[https://www.sefaria.org/Ezekiel.34.31?ven=Tanakh:_The_Holy_Scriptures,_published_by_JPS&vhe=Miqra_according_to_the_Masorah&lang=he]
 +
'For you, My flock, flock that I tend, are ADAM; and I am your God—declares the Lord GOD.'
 +
 +
Which a Talmud verse is based on. (Like the entire Talmud is, based on the Hebrew Bible, [[Tanakh]]). This was misrepresented by the prosecutor at the trial.
 +
 
 +
''It's ludicrous to suggest that the Bible considers others supposedly "not human".''
 +
 +
This was part of what Rabbi Maze mentioned when replied to the antisemitic prosecutor.
 +
 +
Some Hebrew words have multiple/different meaning, depending on the context. So what is the specific meaning of ADAM in this case?(Source - Rabbi Yaakov Galinsky <i>VeHigadeta</i>, Vayikra, p. 196),  what it refers to in this case is <i>Adam</i> vs <i>Ish</i>, Adam as a unified one group of people. As opposed to many separate, unconnected individuals.[https://yated.com/100-years-since-the-mendel-beilis-trial-blood-libel-refuses-to-die/ 100 Years Since The Mendel Beilis Trial- Blood Libel Refuses To Die], [https://daat.ac.il/chazal/maamar.asp?id=365 "You're called Adam"], [https://www.ou.org/life/torah/reflections_shemot_5768_of_rachmanut_and_redemption/ Shemot: Of Rachmanut and Redemption].
 +
 
 +
In fact, the ''Talmud''  includes Gentiles specifically, twice.
 +
[https://www.sefaria.org/Temurah.2b Tmurah 2b] [https://www.sefaria.org/Sanhedrin.56a Sanhedrin 56a] and more. (Source, Galinsky, ibid).[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 20:45, January 11, 2024 (EST)
    
===Re predicting [[DeSantis]] will win [[Iowa]]===
 
===Re predicting [[DeSantis]] will win [[Iowa]]===
Block, SkipCaptcha, Upload, Automoderated users, edit, Moderators, protect
28,031

edits