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| | :::The word nation according to Oxford Languages is: "a large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, '''inhabiting a particular country or territory'''." The Jews were scattered to various places in the world (which fulfilled biblical prophecy) and then came back to their land (which also fulfilled biblical prophecy). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:47, January 9, 2024 (EST) | | :::The word nation according to Oxford Languages is: "a large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, '''inhabiting a particular country or territory'''." The Jews were scattered to various places in the world (which fulfilled biblical prophecy) and then came back to their land (which also fulfilled biblical prophecy). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:47, January 9, 2024 (EST) |
| | ::::Oh, you mean like the valley of dry bones. Israel was a nation in the [[Pale of Settlement]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 08:55, January 9, 2024 (EST) | | ::::Oh, you mean like the valley of dry bones. Israel was a nation in the [[Pale of Settlement]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 08:55, January 9, 2024 (EST) |
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| − | == DeSantis is going to win Iowa, and it won't be close. DeSantis internal poll has 60,000 Caucus Commitment Cards ==
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| − | For comparison: "Ted Cruz was able to defeat Donald Trump in the Iowa Caucus by winning over Evangelical caucus-goers;[1] Cruz won 51,666 caucus votes or 27.6%, giving him a net gain of one delegate over Trump. Cruz visited all 99 counties of Iowa and held small events.[2] Cruz outperformed his polling average, which predicted a narrow Trump victory in the caucus. Following poor performances in the caucuses, Rand Paul,[3] Mike Huckabee[4] and Rick Santorum[5] suspended their campaigns." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Iowa_Republican_presidential_caucuses
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| − | Forget what the Liberal Media and their Liberal Polls are telling you. If that internal polling is even remotely accurate, with 60,000 to 100,000 caucus votes, likely somewhere between 30% to 50% of an estimated 200,000 voters, all beside DeSantis and Trump will likely drop out shortly after Iowa, and DeSantis will have the momentum going into NH. Don't be duped by the Zionist Psy-Op from the Liberal Media.
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| − | It is a Mossad like operation. Remember the Deceptive Motto of Non-Abrahamic Deceptive Mossad...[[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 02:49, January 9, 2024 (EST)
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| − | :All one has to see is , again NishantXavier bigoted spam and total inaccuracies. While conservative Jews' Zionism is in fact anti Liberal and against '''Soros - who is anti-Zionist'''. Zionist-Abrahamic is against - Pro-Hamas-Soros[https://nypost.com/2023/10/12/george-soros-once-slammed-us-israel-for-not-working-with-hamas/amp/][https://www.foxnews.com/world/israels-un-ambassador-slams-soros-donations-pro-hamas-groups-seeking-destruction-jewish-state.amp][[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 05:05, January 9, 2024 (EST)
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| − | ::As per using Wikipedia as a source, Wikipedia founder [[Larry Sanger]] says [https://joannenova.com.au/2023/08/founder-says-cia-fbi-control-wikipedia-and-made-it-the-most-biased-encyclopedia/ CIA & FBI control Wikipedia]. Iowa is a contest for the second place finisher between DeSantis & the Deep State Democrat preferred Nikki Haley, which one will advance to Super Tuesday. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 09:02, January 9, 2024 (EST)
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| − | :::Trump is doggedly pursuing another term as president. He is not going to drop out after Iowa. That is wishful thinking. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 07:00, January 9, 2024 (EST)
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| − | ::::I think you missed the context of this discussion. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 09:32, January 9, 2024 (EST)
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| − | :::::NishantXavier literally wrote above: "Trump will likely drop out shortly after Iowa". [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 09:39, January 9, 2024 (EST)
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| − | ::::::Oh, okay. So evidently you agree with Nishant's analysis that [[Deep State]]-controlled Wikipedia is a valid source. That kinda contradicts why Conservapedia was founded.
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| − | ::::::You know, me and LT joined [[Larry Sanger]]'s Slack group, but LT has a problem sticking to a plan and commitment. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 09:49, January 9, 2024 (EST)
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| − | I didn't say that Trump will likely drop out after Iowa. Typical example of selective quoting. Here's the broader quotation for the context: "all beside DeSantis and Trump will likely drop out shortly after Iowa, and DeSantis will have the momentum going into NH"
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| − | :I misread your material. The good news is that I am going to be getting a new pair of workable glasses soon with oversize lenses. Because the lenses are so big, my friend whose father is an academic, calls glasses such as these "professor glasses". [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:51, January 10, 2024 (EST)
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| − | ::Ok MaGoo. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 13:19, January 10, 2024 (EST)
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| − | :::Another point/angle, with the DeSantis vs Haley on CNN tonight, whether one is for or against Nikki, I believe it's pretty smart of her not to go on the attack on Trump.[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 15:17, January 10, 2024 (EST)
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| − | Fair enough, Conservative. Understood. Btw, my prediction is already coming true. Christie dropped out of the race, even before Iowa. Vivek probably will next, as he didn't make the debate. It'll be down to DeSantis vs Trump before long, and I think he'll do very well then, and it effectively is down to Nikki, Vivek, DeSantis and Trump. I think one of the first two may end up being VP, but let's see. It could also be Kim Reynolds or Thomas Massie, both of whom I like too, and who are also close to the Governor, and campaigned with him.[[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 02:46, January 11, 2024 (EST)
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| − | :Trump will carry Florida in the general election with or without DeSantis on the ticket - he doesn't need him. [[Kari Lake]] makes a lot more sense. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 15:49, January 11, 2024 (EST)
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| − | For better or worse, populism is where the GOP base is (Blue collar working class people especially). And they are not going to vote for the Trump-Lite candidate DeSantis as long as Trump is a viable candidate. Because why have Trump lite when you can have Trump. DeSantis is funded by the business/establishment part/class of the GOP. And Nikky Haley is too much of a neocon for the GOP base which is sick of America's forever wars.
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| − | He who wants to kill and brutally torture Christian Children in Abortionist Terrorism is also Devilish rather than Abrahamic, and Conservapedia has well documented that the ADL is such: "Its general stance on prayer in secular schools is that it is "unconstitutional."[2] The ADL also has a record of supporting gay rights, the separation of church and state,[3] hate crimes legislation, abortion and partial-birth abortion.[4] There is also evidence to suggest that the founders may have been Fabian socialists.[5]
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| − | Well, well, promoting Separation of Church and State in Christian-Majority America, then empowering Synagogue to mix with State in persecuting Conservative Christians and Traditional Catholics. The Plot Thickens: Taken from Conservapedia's informative article on: https://www.conservapedia.com/Anti-Defamation_League Well done to those editors. God Bless. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 05:05, January 10, 2024 (EST)</small>
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| − | ::Another ranting hate posting by NishantXavier. A salad between the CIA Israeli version <small>(Mossad)</small> unrelated to religion at all, and a group fighting antisemitism <small>(but ADL's Greenblatt has been criticized by conservative Jews for getting involved in unrelated stuff like woke). BTW. Israel is mostly non religious. Though most do believe in God.</small>[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 10:05, January 10, 2024 (EST)
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| − | :::But ''NishantXavier'' has a routine of slamming Jews, or anything that is or preceived to be related to them, however the tool and opportunity arises.[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 15:02, January 10, 2024 (EST)
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| − | ::::I think it started when some ultra Orthodox Jews zealots were spitting on/towards Christian pilgrims and other Christians such as Christian clergy in Israel. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:27, January 10, 2024 (EST)
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| − | :::::NishantXavier spammed poison before that. And at the time has only highlighted that case by exclusively stressing on those few but not on the ultra-Orthodox Talmudists who turned over the 2 youths spitters to Zionist authorities who punished them or omitted the overwhelming religious organizations groups, rabbis all against that thing. It's not that case at all. But a constant routine of hatred. Even his terminology+mixing unrelated things he uses, is often typically Neo Nazi or and KKK type. In addition, take a look at [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=prev&oldid=1999949 this] sample of his horrendous malicious lie - asides the fact that he mixes contradictory ideologies... one opposing the other into one salad - all for his unholy "holy war."[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 00:34, January 11, 2024 (EST)
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| − | :What rubbish. I did not spam any "poison". I educated ignorant Souls about what the Talmud teaches. I'm a credible editor with a long history of seriousness, far more than some of you. I run ReasonstobeChristian.com website. More and more of the evil that the Talmud teaches is coming to Light. You can either educate yourself about Jewish Supremacist ideologies that view "Goyim" or Gentiles as sub-human cattle and want to kill or enslave millions of us, or you can remain willfully blind. I will shake of the dust if you do. Everything I said, I documented with unimpeachable links and sources. I also specifically commended Good Jews like Dr. Laura Schlessinger and others. I'm not talking about. I'm talking about Talmudist Supremacy, which is as bad or worse than Communism and Nazism. If we can criticize Russians or Germans when some of them behave badly, we can perfectly legitimately criticize Jews when some of them behave badly. There are none so blind as will not see. Read the Talmud first, become an expert on what it teaches about "Goyim", and then you can talk....[[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 02:43, January 11, 2024 (EST)
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| − | ::What a total rubbish out of infamous Hitlerist GDL flyers... on and on NishantXavier has no shame.[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 05:10, January 11, 2024 (EST)
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| − | :::There is no quick and easy solution to the Gaza situation. This difficult situation has been going on since the Jews won the 1967 [[Six Day War]]. With that being said, the Six Day War was remarkable and there were signs that God intervened on behalf of the Jews (See: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wMIq6X4zi4 GOD'S HAND IN THE SIX DAY WAR] and [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR-8pmLBStA Did God Help Israel During The Six Day War?] and [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i3uIz7hoYs Six Days of Miracles] and [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR-8pmLBStA Fmr Israeli Commander: God Protected us in Battle]). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 07:42, January 11, 2024 (EST)
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| − | :::Nishant, seriously, you need to do some studying. These two sentences: "More and more of the evil that the Talmud teaches is coming to Light. You can either educate yourself about Jewish Supremacist ideologies that view "Goyim" or Gentiles as sub-human cattle and want to kill or enslave millions of us" could have came straight out of ''Mein Kampf''. Seriously. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 15:14, January 11, 2024 (EST)
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| − | :No, I have not read the Talmud. But I've read ''Mein Kampf'' in 3 different translations and bunch of other Holocaust literature and anti-Semitic writings and arguments from those times. And your whole presentation here comes straight out of the body of those anti-Semitic tracs that appeared after circulation of the ''Protocols'' in 1890s upto World War II. It's nothing new, and hardly a "revelation" as you try to sell it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 22:21, January 11, 2024 (EST)
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| − | :Look at the language you use: "Jewish Supremacist". Where'd you get that phrase, [https://davidduke.com/the-roots-of-jewish-supremacism/ The Talmudic Roots of Jewish Supremacism by Dr. David Duke]? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 22:36, January 11, 2024 (EST)
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| − | Whatevet chance he can bash that one group - his horrific obsession. His verbatim-style sounds straight out of Neo Nazi sites.
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| − | This is from 1937 at Nazis rise</b>https://www.jta.org/archive/oxford-professor-defends-talmud-against-nazi-accusation
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| − | '''''It is a bounden duty to visit the sick.'''''
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| − | '''''The righteous control their desires, but the desires of the wicked control them.'''''
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| − | '''''It is sinful to deceive any man, be he even a heathen.'''''
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| − | '''''Examine the contents, not the bottle.'''''
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| − | '''''He who cannot bear one word of reproof will have to hear many.'''''
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| − | '''''He who gives way to his wrath makes desolate his house.'''''
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| − | '''''Do not appease thy fellow in his hour of anger; do not comfort him while the dead is still laid out before him; do not question him in the hour of his vow; and do not strive to see him in his hour of misfortune.'''''
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| − | '''''All ailings, only not the ailing of heart; all evils, but not an evil wife.'''''
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| − | <b>but again, his problem is not Talmud or unrelated to it IDF or unrelated opposite which is Communists or other opportunities he fanatically frantically jumps to bash..</b>
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| − | [[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 23:09, January 11, 2024 (EST)
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| − | :Bigot NishantXavier (cherry picking to put Js. in a bad light):
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| − | ''I'm very very very , but very much concerned about Christians, this is why, upto now I never wrote about Islamic persecution all over - especially in Iran, my-neighbouring-Pakistan, Africa anti-Christian genocide, etc.. but it's the juuz, I mean talmud (but I will use only a sentence that I can use in my war, regardless of its true neaning or context), I mean DeSantis (is "like") mossad, I mean bolsheviks who hate religion and talmud, I mean zionists, I mean communist-anti-Zionists, I mean secular Netanyahu...no, not non-Jewish Italian Fauci, not non-Jewish Greek Jeff Bezos, or non-Jewish Musk, or non-Jewish Buffet or Arab Carlos Slim, not at all. I mean the juuz want to "control" you, it's THEM...hey, I like KKKDavidduke language/ideology....''[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 08:59, January 12, 2024 (EST)
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| − | ::So far I think I have given the most reasonable view about the Jews/Talmud that is somewhere between Dianne3000/Telling and NishantXavier. Given that I have read the Old Testament through, took took two classes related to the Nazis/Holocaust, worked for Jewish organization as their token gentile, and worked for a Jewish owned firm, this is not surprising.
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| − | ::With the above being said, God hasn't abandoned the Jews and modern Israel (which fullfils various Old Testament prophecies) and the miraculous events surrounding the Six Day War are proof of this (see my posts previously on main page talk above). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:03, January 12, 2024 (EST)
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| − | :::Ok, Mr. Moderator. Impressive. You've put up quite the defense for the "Semite-led untermensch" the past two years. [[User_talk:MayGodBless#Russian_soldier_and_looter_returning_to_Russia_from_Ukraine:_.22Honey.2C_we_now_have_a_great_luxury._We_now_have_a_toilet.21.22|The Semite-led untermensch don't even have indoor flush toilets.]] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 11:25, January 12, 2024 (EST)
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| − | ::::NishantXavier does NOT have a "view on talmud," or a "view" on zionists. He has a Jew hatred problem. You know, they all (anti Zionist G. Soros meets with Netanyahu, everyday, sometimes 5 times a day, it depends on the anti Zionist Talmudists who refuse to serve in the IDF), meet in the heat of night and decide how to "rule."...preferably with space lasers.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 11:42, January 12, 2024 (EST)
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| − | :::::IMO, it shows the danger of anti-Semitic tracs and literature, cause it gets absorbed and repeated rotely without understanding what's being said. What's the solution? Censorship? No, education. Education, understanding, and compassion. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 12:01, January 12, 2024 (EST)
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| − | ::::::No, RobSmith. I showed via various socioeconomic indicators that some countries futures look bright, while others do not. Being mad at me about this is like being mad at the weatherman for forecasting tornados/hurricane for some regions or being mad at a seismologist for forecasting an earthquake for a region. Right now, it looks like significant deflation hitting China, the second biggest economy in the world, and China's current and upcoming steep demographic decline is going to have a BIG effect on the world. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:14, January 12, 2024 (EST)
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| − | :::::::The Semite-led untermensch don't have indoor flush toilets. Unfortunately, we have to re-hash this debate with the upcoming vote on the Continuing Resolution. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 12:23, January 12, 2024 (EST)
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| − | ::::::Telling and Diane3000, I don't agree with NishantXavier's various opinions/views on the Jews, but for various reasons that will not get into, I think NishantXavier's anger towards the Jews will lesson down the pike. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:14, January 12, 2024 (EST)
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| − | I am going to switch back into helping non talk page web pages get more web traffic and various websites get more web traffic. That has been far more impactful/fruitful as far as my past endeavors. I spent too much time on Conservavpedia talk pages in 2023/2024. Andy is right about talk, talk, talk not being a very fruitful endeavor. So am bowing out of this discussion. And I don't expect to get involved in main page talk again. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:23, January 12, 2024 (EST)
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| − | :Main page talk is like eating processed sugar. It will give you a sugar high and taste sweet at the time, but long term it is not good for you. One of my New Year's resolutions for 2024 is to stay off Conservapedia talk pages as much as possible. But doing friendly/constructive talk page edits can be useful/enjoyable. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:42, January 12, 2024 (EST)
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| − | ::MPR/talk should be about current news items and qualifying sources. The extraneous stuff belongs at the Community Portal, where anybody can spew their caca ideas. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 12:50, January 12, 2024 (EST)
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| − | :::Whether NishantXavier's background (before becoming Christian per his saying), there '''in his India, is Islam or Hinduism, both maintain supremacism'''. And which religion does not hold itself above the other? While of the three Abrahamic religions, only Judaism does not prosletyze, still it's amazing the singling out.
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| − | I've lived with evangelicals, beautiful friends too, I've never seen such a rare, weird person, to be such a blind hater carrying that label (evangelical?) along.
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| − | Oh, and about Talmud? It was Hillel who coined the golden rule..
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| − | (1) "If I am not for myself, who will be for me? And being for myself, what am I? And if not now, when?";
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| − | That's a remarkable, unexpected prediction, Nishant, that [[DeSantis]] will win [[Iowa]]. Startling, contrary predictions like that are what make [[Conservapedia]] great. Thanks for being bold, while I expect [[Trump]] to prevail in these [[Iowa caucuses]].--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 02:54, January 11, 2024 (EST)
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| − | :: Thank you, Andy. God Bless! It's great we can amicably disagree. I expect it to be DeSantis vs Trump one-on-one and head-to-head shortly after Iowa. Let's see if it pans out that way. But Christie dropping out already means it's effectively a 2 person race arguably, 2 persons in the top tier, Trump and DeSantis, and two persons perhaps running more for VP, namely Nikki Haley and Vivek Ramaswamy. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 03:18, January 11, 2024 (EST)
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| − | :::Thanks Andy. Let's see if last night have an impact too. There were some fireworks but not a whole lot.[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 05:17, January 11, 2024 (EST)
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| − | ::::Trump is still favored to win the Republican primary and the 2024 election according to the [[political betting markets]].[https://electionbettingodds.com/GOPPrimary2024.html][https://electionbettingodds.com/President2024.html] The political betting markets data indicates that DeSantis only has a 4% chance of winning the GOP primary.[https://electionbettingodds.com/GOPPrimary2024.html] The improbable does happen sometimes, but it does very much look like Trump is going to win the GOP nomination.
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| − | ::::The odds of a Republican winning the 2024 presidential election is now about 3% higher than the Democrats winning it according to the [[political betting markets]].[https://electionbettingodds.com/PresidentialParty2024.html] That's a slim margin. I think it is going to come down to the economy (which seems to have a 50/50 chance of getting worse before the election) and what the Supreme Court does in relation to the charges against Trump. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:33, January 11, 2024 (EST)
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| − | :::::If [https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/polls-show-haley-closing-gap-trump-new-hampshire/story?id=106223644 polls] are any good, Haley closes gap.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 11:08, January 11, 2024 (EST)
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| − | :The only question is, will Trump received a majority or plurality in a three way contest. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 21:59, January 13, 2024 (EST)
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| − | That's the way it seems to me. What do others think? [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 08:14, January 11, 2024 (EST)
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| − | :DeSantis runs 2nd in Iowa and Haley has a chance to run 2nd in NH. If Desantis takes 2nd in NH, it's a two man race until Trump has enough delegates. If Haley survives NH, the Haley-DeSantis contest goes into overtime.
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| − | :DeSantis strategy is take 2nd in Iowa, 3rd in NH, and 2nd in SC. That keeps him in the race beyond Feb. 3. Haley's only prayer is to finish 2nd in two of those three races. Without that, she's cooked. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 15:35, January 11, 2024 (EST)
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| − | ::More on money in campaigns: What many people don't understand is, many campaigns run hand to mouth (due to current campaign finance laws). Candidates spend the entirety of 2023 raising money which ALL gets spent in Iowa. If they fail to meet that mark, they drop out (like Christie just did, or Kamala did in December 2019. She famously said in the fall of 2019, "I'm moving to Iowa", meaning she bet the farm of her whole campaign war chest on Iowa, and didn't even last that long).
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| − | ::Biden, who ran 5th in Iowa in 2020, didn't spend a dime in Iowa. He didn't really enter the primary campaign season until South Carolina, and bet it all there and on Super Tuesday. That's why Buttboy, Klobuchar, and others dropped out on election eve - they were running on fumes, knew they wouldn't pick up any new donors, and cut the best deal they could for career advancement. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 13:26, January 12, 2024 (EST)
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| − | "It’s literally freezing in Ames, Iowa. Iowans chose to listen to their next president of the United States. RonDeSantis will win Iowa by a landslide." Picture in the link. Rob or someone, can you pls post the pic here? https://twitter.com/BoricuaGOP/status/1745632851775668451 It is an epic pic, and it speaks a 1000 words. Let's see how it goes. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 21:45, January 11, 2024 (EST)
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| − | :Right. Trump colluded with Russia, Covid comes from people eating bats, Russia is about to run out of missiles, and DeSantis will defeat Trump. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 21:59, January 11, 2024 (EST)
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| − | :In the photo, half of em are Democrats. There is no Democrat caucus this year so they go to the GOP caucus to reek havoc. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 22:07, January 11, 2024 (EST)
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| − | Lol, "half of them are Democrats", that's quite a nice Conspiracy Theory you've got there, Mr. Rob Smith. Lazy Lib Dems are not going to brave Freezing Iowa Temperatures to show up in favor of a Candidate their Liberal Media tells them is already losing. Liberals haven't thought their strategies through. But it's ok because God is on the side of those who wish to confirm the RvW Victory and make it permanent. That's the number 1 reason I'm Pro DeSantis. But as a Pro-Trump Friend reminded me, it's good for Trump too if DeSantis wins, as we'll get him pardoned from any liberal phony Trumped up charge the Dems place against him. We don't agree with Trump, but we have no grudge against him, like the Dems trying to destroy him and his family do. We just need a young, 2 Term President to finish the job concerning RvW etc.[[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 00:34, January 12, 2024 (EST)
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| − | :Hey, I'm from the Midwest. Why do you think we have elections and caucuses in the dead of winter? Cause there's nothing to do and it gives you an opportunity to get out of the house. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 11:51, January 12, 2024 (EST)
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| − | :Gatewaypundit: [https://rumble.com/v46z9p0-democrats-may-switch-parties-to-vote-for-nikki-haley-in-iowa.html Democrats May Switch Parties to Vote for Nikki Haley in Iowa]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 15:20, January 14, 2024 (EST)
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| − | Joni Ernst was clever in walking a fine line on MTP this morning.
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| − | Ernst: I did not use that term...They did break the law.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 10:50, January 14, 2024 (EST)
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