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Another way of saying it would be what I wrote many times long ago: the goal of the US and Ukraine has become to effectively find a way to spin the loss as a ‘victory’, with the most obvious method being to drum up a nonexistent ‘threat to Europe’ then paint the ceasefire as “saving Europe” after having stopped Putin’s “imperialist hordes”.|||Simplicius}}
 
Another way of saying it would be what I wrote many times long ago: the goal of the US and Ukraine has become to effectively find a way to spin the loss as a ‘victory’, with the most obvious method being to drum up a nonexistent ‘threat to Europe’ then paint the ceasefire as “saving Europe” after having stopped Putin’s “imperialist hordes”.|||Simplicius}}
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==Negligence or sabotage?==
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[https://t.me/intelslava/68317 Russian officials call it negligence]. Looks more like [[CIA]] paid and directed [[sabotage]] by [[ISIS]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 16:54, October 12, 2024 (EDT)
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