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:The facts are, [[Oreshnik]] is a creation of [[Donald Trump]]. Trump cancelled the [[INF Treaty]] at the behest of [[Pompeo]] & [[Bolton]] in 2019. IOWs, Trump didn't know what he was doing, and that greenlighted the Russians to go ahead and build new intermediate range missiles. Putin's been clear since that happened - arms limitation agreements & overall security agreements come first. But the Russians (Chinese and the rest of the planet) no longer have any trust in the [[United States]], which abandons international treaties at will based on America's domestic politics, which change every four years. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 01:06, November 28, 2024 (EST)
 
:The facts are, [[Oreshnik]] is a creation of [[Donald Trump]]. Trump cancelled the [[INF Treaty]] at the behest of [[Pompeo]] & [[Bolton]] in 2019. IOWs, Trump didn't know what he was doing, and that greenlighted the Russians to go ahead and build new intermediate range missiles. Putin's been clear since that happened - arms limitation agreements & overall security agreements come first. But the Russians (Chinese and the rest of the planet) no longer have any trust in the [[United States]], which abandons international treaties at will based on America's domestic politics, which change every four years. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 01:06, November 28, 2024 (EST)
 
'''''<big>Update:'' Rob proven right, again:'''</big>
 
'''''<big>Update:'' Rob proven right, again:'''</big>
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*Globalist rage ''[[Financial Times]] of [[London]]: '''[https://archive.ph/c88Kf#selection-1745.0-1745.101 Vladimir Putin to reject Donald Trump’s opening peace offer, says Russian tycoon]''' ''Konstantin Malofeyev says Russian president to engage in talks <u>'''only if they include broader conflicts'''''</u> -- read <u>'''''"arms limitation agreements & overall security agreements"'''''</u>
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*Globalist rage ''[[Financial Times]]'' of [[London]]: '''[https://archive.ph/c88Kf#selection-1745.0-1745.101 Vladimir Putin to reject Donald Trump’s opening peace offer, says Russian tycoon]''' ''Konstantin Malofeyev says Russian president to engage in talks <u>'''only if they include broader conflicts'''''</u> -- read <u>'''''"arms limitation agreements & overall security agreements"'''''</u>
 
:Russia's not interested in a "frozen conflict". They've been through that before with the [[Minsk Accords]], just to buy time for [[NATO]] to build up and re-arm Ukraine. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 00:36, December 3, 2024 (EST)
 
:Russia's not interested in a "frozen conflict". They've been through that before with the [[Minsk Accords]], just to buy time for [[NATO]] to build up and re-arm Ukraine. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 00:36, December 3, 2024 (EST)
  
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