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→The full text of Trump’s 28-point Ukraine-Russia peace plan
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:''Never forget that anyone who argued that [[Zelensky]]’s [[government]] was [[corrupt]], [[Ukraine]] was losing the [[war]], Ukraine had much higher casualties, etc., was smeared as "[[Putin]]ists". Our [[politician]]s and their stenographers in the [[media]] have [[lied]] and spread their [[war propaganda]] for one purpose — to engineer [[public]] support for [[war]]. When an overwhelming majority of [[Ukrainian]]s wanted [[peace]] talks, our [[politician]]s refused to even speak with [[Moscow]]. When Ukrainians voted for [[peace]] in 2019, our [[government]]-financed "[[NGO]]s" reversed the [[election]] outcome. When it became evident that the best they could hope for was for [[Ukraine]] to lose more slowly (and take more casualties), there was zero dissent. They knew [[Russia]] considers [[NATO]] in [[Ukraine]] to be an [[existential]] threat, yet they toppled the [[Ukrainian]] [[government]], instigated [[war]], [[sabotage]]d [[peace]] agreements, and fueled the [[war]] while pretending to “help” Ukraine by having their youth dragged out of their homes and sent to the trenches.'' [https://t.me/wartimedia/110279]
:''Never forget that anyone who argued that [[Zelensky]]’s [[government]] was [[corrupt]], [[Ukraine]] was losing the [[war]], Ukraine had much higher casualties, etc., was smeared as "[[Putin]]ists". Our [[politician]]s and their stenographers in the [[media]] have [[lied]] and spread their [[war propaganda]] for one purpose — to engineer [[public]] support for [[war]]. When an overwhelming majority of [[Ukrainian]]s wanted [[peace]] talks, our [[politician]]s refused to even speak with [[Moscow]]. When Ukrainians voted for [[peace]] in 2019, our [[government]]-financed "[[NGO]]s" reversed the [[election]] outcome. When it became evident that the best they could hope for was for [[Ukraine]] to lose more slowly (and take more casualties), there was zero dissent. They knew [[Russia]] considers [[NATO]] in [[Ukraine]] to be an [[existential]] threat, yet they toppled the [[Ukrainian]] [[government]], instigated [[war]], [[sabotage]]d [[peace]] agreements, and fueled the [[war]] while pretending to “help” Ukraine by having their youth dragged out of their homes and sent to the trenches.'' [https://t.me/wartimedia/110279]
*[[Sonar21]]: [https://sonar21.com/ukraine-along-with-some-europeans-are-playing-a-dangerous-game/ Ukraine, Along with Some Europeans, Are Playing a Dangerous Game].
:This was obvious since the start in 2022. The [[UK]] is behind the attacks on Russia's so-called "shadow fleet". Russia is a land power, the UK is a sea power. The UK believes it can disrupt Russia's economy by attacking commercial vessels carrying [[Russian oil]] anywhere on the globe. Yes, Russia is limited in its ability to retaliate with naval power on the high seas. But that does not alleviate the [[existential threat]] to Russian [[sovereignty]]. It brings the [[UK]] homeland into focus in retaliation. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 12:31, December 4, 2025 (EST)
===When NYT debunks WaPo...===
===When NYT debunks WaPo...===