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Oh, and one more thing: Don't tell me that Fox News is part of the MSM. It's not, they never pretend to be, and indeed they are proud to say that they are not.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]^{[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]} 21:32, 1 August 2007 (EDT)

Oh, and one more thing: Don't tell me that Fox News is part of the MSM. It's not, they never pretend to be, and indeed they are proud to say that they are not.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]^{[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]} 21:32, 1 August 2007 (EDT)

: According to Nielsen, Fox News has 9 of the 10 most viewed shows on Cable TV News in Dec 2006;  it has the second-highest cumulative numbers, between CNN and MSNBC; their mean peaktime viewing figures have them with triple the viewers of MSNBC, and double the viewers iof CNN;  and "In 2006, more than half the people watching cable news were watching Fox News (as they have since 2001)."[http://www.stateofthenewsmedia.org/2007/narrative_cabletv_audience.asp?cat=2&media=6]  That sounds like the very definition of mainstream to me, no?  [[User:BrianRobertson|BrianRobertson]] 22:12, 1 August 2007 (EDT)

: According to Nielsen:

:* Fox News has 9 of the 10 most viewed shows on Cable TV News in Dec 2006

:* their mean peaktime viewing figures are triple that of MSNBC, and double that of of CNN

:* "In 2006, more than half the people watching cable news were watching Fox News (as they have since 2001)."[http://www.stateofthenewsmedia.org/2007/narrative_cabletv_audience.asp?cat=2&media=6]   

 

:That sounds like the very definition of mainstream to me, no?  [[User:BrianRobertson|BrianRobertson]] 22:12, 1 August 2007 (EDT)

I could've swore that MSM-status was decided by how mainstream something was, not whether or not it claimed to be mainstream... [[User:Kazumaru|Kazumaru]] 21:35, 1 August 2007 (EDT)

I could've swore that MSM-status was decided by how mainstream something was, not whether or not it claimed to be mainstream... [[User:Kazumaru|Kazumaru]] 21:35, 1 August 2007 (EDT)