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::Look ''hard'', please. ;-) Especially because there seems to be an argument being made that Canada's system ''is not'' [[socialized medicine]], while Dr. [[David Gratzer]] appears to be saying (1) it is too! and (2) [[free market]] medicine is much better. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 22:13, 9 August 2007 (EDT)
::Look ''hard'', please. ;-) Especially because there seems to be an argument being made that Canada's system ''is not'' [[socialized medicine]], while Dr. [[David Gratzer]] appears to be saying (1) it is too! and (2) [[free market]] medicine is much better. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 22:13, 9 August 2007 (EDT)
::*Here's what one partisan site (I'm not going to use it in the article; I'm waiting patiently for you): Hollywood and the Democrats are gearing up to bring [[socialized medicine]] to the U.S. under the guise of "[[universal healthcare]]". [http://www.freemarketcure.com/]
::*Here's what one partisan site (I'm not going to use it in the article; I'm waiting patiently for you): Hollywood and the Democrats are gearing up to bring [[socialized medicine]] to the U.S. under the guise of "[[universal healthcare]]". [http://www.freemarketcure.com/]
:::It seems the problem is that the dictionary definition is different from the common definition. According to [http://www.amsa.org/pdf/model.pdf here], a liberal site (search for "socialized") and [http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=25521 here], a dictionary, "socialized medicine" means that the health care is paid for and ''administered by'' the government. Since Americans have an aversion to the word "socialized" (and rightfully so, in my opinion ;) ) anyone politicians who think that it is good for the country must avoid calling it "socialized", so they go to the blanket term "universal health care". (Another reason for the vagueness is that, at least this early in the race, nobody really has a solid plan. It'd be better for them in the long run to stick to general terms so when the race gets tighter they aren't stuck with fewer options).
:::I couldn't, in my rather limited search, find anything that suggests Canada isn't socialized medicine, with the exception of a WP article which didn't seem correctly cited. I'm sure there are people who say it's not socialized, but it seems to me that these people are wrong. They probably make the argument to get people more comfortable with the idea of socialized medicine. Kinda like when your mom tells you there aren't any vegetables in the casserole... and then tells you when you are done eating that there in fact ''were''!
:::How do you feel about either of those two sources as a definition of SM? [[User:Jazzman831|Jazzman831]] 23:10, 9 August 2007 (EDT)