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Talk:Gender identity disorder (view source)
Revision as of 00:22, August 16, 2007
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:::So, given that this "medical condition," in need of "therapy" and the surgical knife, did not exist ''prior'' to doctors learning how to do things like tonsilectomies and appendectomies, and they just converted thier knowledge and experience over to satisfy what appears to be some intellectual challenge or curiousity, and a "medical condition" appears to have been discovered or invented to explain their conduct, none of this acummulated wisdom appears to have an scientific basis at all.
:::So, given that this "medical condition," in need of "therapy" and the surgical knife, did not exist ''prior'' to doctors learning how to do things like tonsilectomies and appendectomies, and they just converted thier knowledge and experience over to satisfy what appears to be some intellectual challenge or curiousity, and a "medical condition" appears to have been discovered or invented to explain their conduct, none of this acummulated wisdom appears to have an scientific basis at all.
:::This is just the professional opinion of one schooled to make such observations. But in my field (unlike the "professionals" who perform these genital mutilations), I understand my judgment may be wrong. Hence, I do not take actions that I cannot undo later (again, unlike these "professionals" who perform genital mutilations). [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 20:03, 15 August 2007 (EDT)
:::This is just the professional opinion of one schooled to make such observations. But in my field (unlike the "professionals" who perform these genital mutilations), I understand my judgment may be wrong. Hence, I do not take actions that I cannot undo later (again, unlike these "professionals" who perform genital mutilations). [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 20:03, 15 August 2007 (EDT)
::::First, you passed over Eunuchs. Matthew 19:12 "(12) For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it." Some willingly gave up their masculinity for many reasons, a voluntary Eunuch could be described as a man with GID.
::::Second, you passed over the Hijra of India, which are a long known culture of Eunuchs in India, many of whom report their reasons for doing so was that they didn't feel like a man, but rather as a woman. Hijra were around before modern medicine with tonsilectomies, and appendectomies.
::::The scientific basis that exists to support sex reassignment therapy for transsexuals has already been empirically established already by modern medicine. Near 50% successful suicide rate to a relatively normal suicide rate. Also, while the cause of schizophrenia is still unknown, we still know empirically that giving schizophrenics anti-psychotics reduces the symptoms so that they can function in life. The process is treating a psychological distress with techniques that are know to resolve symptoms, even if a cause is still not known. --[[User:Puellanivis|Puellanivis]] 20:22, 15 August 2007 (EDT)