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:: That's good, and I'm impressed. But does your physics teacher describe where modern scientific theories have been proven wrong, such as the [[Origin of the Moon]] or the [[Piltdown Man]]?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

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::: My physics teacher hasn't mentioned that, but my biology teacher talked about the origins of the moon theory once. '''[[user:FernoKlump|FernoKlump]]'''[[User talk:FernoKlump|Leave me a death threat!!]] 15:34, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

* compulsive profanity

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:: Causes are confusion, deprivation of [[faith]], and constantly being taught falsehoods.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

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::: The only thing I can think of would be anxiety over tests or other related stress like that. '''[[user:FernoKlump|FernoKlump]]'''[[User talk:FernoKlump|Leave me a death threat!!]] 15:34, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

* feeling that it is funny to be dumb

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:: I doubt you'll hear in [[public school]] any criticism of the censorship of classroom prayer, or of the [[gay agenda]], or of the [[abortion]] industry.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

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::: For criticism of school prayer see below. In U.S. History we discussed the gay rights movement, and our (liberal) teacher criticized the violence of the Stonewall riots in comparison to the peaceful Civil Rights movement of Martin Luther King, but was also empathetic to the fact that gays were being arrested and subject to police brutality. Out teacher had criticized both sides of the abortion issue and has even used it to draw a comparison to the conflict over abolitionism. But I remember that he talked about people who are supposedly "pro-life", yet bomb abortion clinics. I have a hunch that he is not in favor of abortion, though, because he is very critical of the promiscuity today and has credited abortion to helping the increase of it. '''[[user:FernoKlump|FernoKlump]]'''[[User talk:FernoKlump|Leave me a death threat!!]] 15:34, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

* lack of awareness that prayer is censored in public schools and that teachers' unions are very liberal

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:: I'm not talking about mandatory prayer. I'm talking about voluntary prayer.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

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:::Actually when I wrote that I was referring to something I had written on the top of my post, but I ended up deleting it, so it makes no sense now. We know that we are allowed to pray as long as it does not disrupt the class. Our U.S. History class debated this and we generally agreed that forced prayer violates freedom of religion. We also talked about some cases where teachers have jumped the gun and censored students while praying nondisruptively and decided that they had no right to do that. '''[[user:FernoKlump|FernoKlump]]'''[[User talk:FernoKlump|Leave me a death threat!!]] 15:34, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

* alcohol and drug abuse

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:: 34% is huge, and the 5% is an underestimate (or perhaps the "frequently" adjective is the trick there).--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

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:::Alcohol is a particularly large problem at our school, but it is declining. The statistic for ever ''trying'' marijuana was much larger, but many students didn't find an appeal to it and never tried it again.

* disrespect for teachers

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Again, a minority of the school is ~~disrepectful~~ to teachers. But at our age we all want to be 'rebels' so that kind of thing is expected

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Again, a minority of the school is disrespectful to teachers. But at our age we all want to be 'rebels' so that kind of thing is expected

:: It's more in [[public school]].--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

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:::I'm sure it is, but teachers never lose control over the classrooms.

* bullying

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:: Rest assured that gang activity is a huge problem in some areas. Do you live in a wealthy suburb?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

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::: I live in a middle-class suburb, so gang are never really a problem. My point is, though, that the gangs aren't caused by the school, gang activity just spills into it.

That is just a summary of my experience in the public school system. I think that it shows that a lot of the points are just presumed and don't really reflect a majority of public schoolers. '''[[user:FernoKlump|FernoKlump]]'''[[User talk:FernoKlump|Leave me a death threat!!]] 14:33, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

:: I've taught many of them, and see their contrast with [[homeschoolers]] firsthand.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

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:::My problem with this article is that it is stereotyping

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