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Talk:Essay:A Challenge to Creationists (view source)
Revision as of 15:06, June 16, 2008
, 15:06, June 16, 2008→Not much of a challenge
P.S: did you just link the word Astronomical to the astronomy article? They mean completely different things.
P.S: did you just link the word Astronomical to the astronomy article? They mean completely different things.
--[[User:JackSmith|JackSmith]] 10:13, 16 June 2008 (EDT)
--[[User:JackSmith|JackSmith]] 10:13, 16 June 2008 (EDT)
Rebuttal: [[God]] needed no cause for Himself. He ''is'' the First Cause, and the Last.{{Bible quote|"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty."|book=Revelation|chap=1|verses=8}}
God ''made'' time. So, according to His nature, He is outside of time.
And—funny that you should talk about time being incapable of flowing infinitely backwards. That's a relatively new concept, did you know that? Sir [[Charles Lyell]], the inventor of [[uniformitarianism]], held as one of his central precepts that the [[Earth]] has always been around, and forever. That premise became untenable when the radiometrists couldn't come up with any number higher than 4.6 billion years for the "ages" of the oldest rocks.
And I did not link to [[astronomy]] by accident. I meant to do that. Because modern astronomy is providing observations that, properly understood, are tearing uniformitarianism, and all the [[deep time]] baggage that goes with it, to tatters. Think about it—virtually every successful space mission, by [[NASA]], or the [[ESA]], or the old [[Soviet Union|Soviet]] space agency, has turned up observations that create serious problems for the whole deep time concept, the [[nebula hypothesis]], the [[Big Bang]], and everything else. Check out the articles on the [[planet]]s and on many of the [[moon]]s, and you'll see.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]<sup>[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]</sup> 11:06, 16 June 2008 (EDT)