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A little Christian tolerance here, please
:::::::: Philip, your angry posting is an argument with yourself at this point. In open-minded discussions, estimates are common and helpful. Jumping on someone else's estimates while refusing to provide your own is a sign of bullying rather than open mind. Rant and insist on [[last wordism]] if you like, but I'm not going to waste any more time with your approach. The logical and political rejection of the fallacy of [[gun control]] is so widely accepted in the United States that gun control is rarely advocated in most states here any more.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:16, 4 December 2008 (EST)
:::::::: Philip, your angry posting is an argument with yourself at this point. In open-minded discussions, estimates are common and helpful. Jumping on someone else's estimates while refusing to provide your own is a sign of bullying rather than open mind. Rant and insist on [[last wordism]] if you like, but I'm not going to waste any more time with your approach. The logical and political rejection of the fallacy of [[gun control]] is so widely accepted in the United States that gun control is rarely advocated in most states here any more.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:16, 4 December 2008 (EST)
Slow down, pardnuh! When Andy said "fool's errand" he was referring to himself. Let's not try to settle this by shouting one another down. Simply quote studies: that's where we get our facts.
My mind is not made up. I am open to being shown that "gun control" can have good effects. I sure don't want to have to go around carrying a gun all the time. I'd rather live where no one wants to kill or rob me. God knows, this would be heaven. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 19:16, 4 December 2008 (EST)
== Gun control debate vs. greater emphasis on changing violent thinking of society ==
== Gun control debate vs. greater emphasis on changing violent thinking of society ==