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:Can you supply a source for this assertion? Who (besides you) makes this argument? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 16:17, 27 March 2007 (EDT)
 
:Can you supply a source for this assertion? Who (besides you) makes this argument? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 16:17, 27 March 2007 (EDT)
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    Sure, Ed.  Although many prominent pro-evolution figures in the evolution creation debate
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    believe ID is a new form of creationism, the only source I could easily find was Barbara
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    Forrest’s expert report used in the Kitzmiller v Dover trial.  I couldn’t find a copy
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    online, but here is a part of the first paragraph.
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        "ID's rejection of naturalism in any form logically entails its appeal to the
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        only alternative, supernaturalism, as a putatively scientific explanation for
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        the natural phenomena.  This makes ID a religious belief.  In addition, my
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        research reveals that ID is not science, but the newest variant of traditional
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        American creationism.  With only a few exceptions, it continues the usual
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        complaints of creationists against the theory of evolution and comprises
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        virtually all the elements of traditional creationism."
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    [[User:Land Dweller|Land Dweller]] 18:09, 28 March 2007 (EDT)
    
User:Miles, it’s true that it would be within the realm of science to investigate a space alien designer, but no prominent proponent of ID believes the designer is an alien.  Nearly all of them believe it is God who is clearly supernatural.
 
User:Miles, it’s true that it would be within the realm of science to investigate a space alien designer, but no prominent proponent of ID believes the designer is an alien.  Nearly all of them believe it is God who is clearly supernatural.
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