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Sorry for recreating a talk page. But I was just wondering, if a photo of Nate Phelps at the top of the article is really a good idea. He was a (forced) member of the [[Westboro Baptist Church]]. I don't think anyone can blame him for making a 180° turn. Is he also a notable enough American atheist? --[[User:VPropp|VPropp]] 13:34, 3 February 2012 (EST) | Sorry for recreating a talk page. But I was just wondering, if a photo of Nate Phelps at the top of the article is really a good idea. He was a (forced) member of the [[Westboro Baptist Church]]. I don't think anyone can blame him for making a 180° turn. Is he also a notable enough American atheist? --[[User:VPropp|VPropp]] 13:34, 3 February 2012 (EST) | ||
| − | ::When he stands before the judgement seat of Christ, he is not going to get a "get out of jail free" card for choosing atheism because of his family background. Second, I wanted something which has their organizational symbol in the background and had someone who had a speaking role. The current picture fits the bill. I also don't think there is creative commons or public domain pictures for their current president at least at the time the article was created. But feel to check now and perhaps this has changed. 14: | + | ::When he stands before the judgement seat of Christ, he is not going to get a "get out of jail free" card for choosing atheism because of his family background. Second, I wanted something which has their organizational symbol in the background and had someone who had a speaking role. The current picture fits the bill. I also don't think there is creative commons or public domain pictures for their current president at least at the time the article was created. But feel to check now and perhaps this has changed. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 14:11, 3 February 2012 (EST) |
| + | :::It seems your wish can be more readily accommodated now. Flickr now has a picture of their organization president that was taken in 2011 and is under a creative commons license: http://www.flickr.com/photos/39965300@N07/5646252330/ Picture seems a bit blurry though. Get feedback from other editors to see if other people think the picture is good enough and make sure the picture is properly given credit to meet the creative commons licensing agreement (flickr username and/or real name, title, url to picture, license agreement with link to license agreement). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 14:23, 3 February 2012 (EST) | ||
| + | :::::Here is another David Silverman picture but you would need to clarify which person is david silverman: http://www.flickr.com/photos/39965300@N07/5645698003/ Again, not the best photo, but perhaps good enough. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 14:27, 3 February 2012 (EST) | ||
| + | :::::: [EC] Haha, I wanted to link to the exact same picture:) Not the best quality, but he can be clearly identified.<br /> I can see your reasoning for choosing the Phelps picture. And yes he will have to take responsibility before the Lord, as we all will. His extreme background (claimed physical abuse, hardcore indoctrination by some pseudo-religious fanatic) makes it much more understandable for him to be an atheist. All I'm saying is: Because of his background he's not the best example of an atheist.--[[User:VPropp|VPropp]] 14:40, 3 February 2012 (EST) | ||
| + | ::::::::Atheism is such a foolish position that the path to foolishness would not seem to be as important as many other worldviews. Second, until a better Silverman picture comes up, the present one will suffice. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 16:04, 3 February 2012 (EST) | ||
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Nate Phelps
Sorry for recreating a talk page. But I was just wondering, if a photo of Nate Phelps at the top of the article is really a good idea. He was a (forced) member of the Westboro Baptist Church. I don't think anyone can blame him for making a 180° turn. Is he also a notable enough American atheist? --VPropp 13:34, 3 February 2012 (EST)
- When he stands before the judgement seat of Christ, he is not going to get a "get out of jail free" card for choosing atheism because of his family background. Second, I wanted something which has their organizational symbol in the background and had someone who had a speaking role. The current picture fits the bill. I also don't think there is creative commons or public domain pictures for their current president at least at the time the article was created. But feel to check now and perhaps this has changed. Conservative 14:11, 3 February 2012 (EST)
- It seems your wish can be more readily accommodated now. Flickr now has a picture of their organization president that was taken in 2011 and is under a creative commons license: http://www.flickr.com/photos/39965300@N07/5646252330/ Picture seems a bit blurry though. Get feedback from other editors to see if other people think the picture is good enough and make sure the picture is properly given credit to meet the creative commons licensing agreement (flickr username and/or real name, title, url to picture, license agreement with link to license agreement). Conservative 14:23, 3 February 2012 (EST)
- Here is another David Silverman picture but you would need to clarify which person is david silverman: http://www.flickr.com/photos/39965300@N07/5645698003/ Again, not the best photo, but perhaps good enough. Conservative 14:27, 3 February 2012 (EST)
- [EC] Haha, I wanted to link to the exact same picture:) Not the best quality, but he can be clearly identified.
I can see your reasoning for choosing the Phelps picture. And yes he will have to take responsibility before the Lord, as we all will. His extreme background (claimed physical abuse, hardcore indoctrination by some pseudo-religious fanatic) makes it much more understandable for him to be an atheist. All I'm saying is: Because of his background he's not the best example of an atheist.--VPropp 14:40, 3 February 2012 (EST)- Atheism is such a foolish position that the path to foolishness would not seem to be as important as many other worldviews. Second, until a better Silverman picture comes up, the present one will suffice. Conservative 16:04, 3 February 2012 (EST)
- [EC] Haha, I wanted to link to the exact same picture:) Not the best quality, but he can be clearly identified.
- Here is another David Silverman picture but you would need to clarify which person is david silverman: http://www.flickr.com/photos/39965300@N07/5645698003/ Again, not the best photo, but perhaps good enough. Conservative 14:27, 3 February 2012 (EST)
- It seems your wish can be more readily accommodated now. Flickr now has a picture of their organization president that was taken in 2011 and is under a creative commons license: http://www.flickr.com/photos/39965300@N07/5646252330/ Picture seems a bit blurry though. Get feedback from other editors to see if other people think the picture is good enough and make sure the picture is properly given credit to meet the creative commons licensing agreement (flickr username and/or real name, title, url to picture, license agreement with link to license agreement). Conservative 14:23, 3 February 2012 (EST)
- When he stands before the judgement seat of Christ, he is not going to get a "get out of jail free" card for choosing atheism because of his family background. Second, I wanted something which has their organizational symbol in the background and had someone who had a speaking role. The current picture fits the bill. I also don't think there is creative commons or public domain pictures for their current president at least at the time the article was created. But feel to check now and perhaps this has changed. Conservative 14:11, 3 February 2012 (EST)
