Difference between revisions of "Talk:Conservative Party (UK)"

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Aren't there any disambiguation pages on Conservapedia??? --Redblue 08:45, 9 April 2007 (EDT)

does this have any factual basis?

As a British person living in the US, I can only say that the two last paragraphs of the first section of this article certainly don't represent matters the way most British people would see it. Britinme 22:08 9 April 2007 (EDT)

guns

It also benefit from a much-publicized slaughter in Scotland of 16 children and a teacher in 1996 by Thomas Hamilton, who used four handguns and several hundred rounds of ammunition. Gun control was enacted afterwards and the entire United Kingdom, horrified by the massacre, moved to the left politically.

This is just - well nonsense, this has never been mentioned as a significant fact by any serious politician commentatory. --Cgday 12:34, 10 April 2007 (EDT)

"Liberal conservatism"

Since the early 2000s, the Conservative Party leaders have softened its conservative stance on social issues and this may have hurt its popularity with voters. While the successful elected leaders of the Republican Party in the United States tend to be conservative on social issues, liberals have enjoyed greater power in the British Conservative Party, and that may explain its weaker performance in elections.[Citation Needed]

This is almost diametrically opposite to the truth. Particularly since David Cameron - a self-declared "liberal conservative" - became leader of the Conservative party, their support in the country has risen dramatically. See the full text of his speech at last September's Conservative Party conference: [1] and recent polls: [2] [3] Britinme 12:50 10 April 2007 (EDT)

• The article says that Cameron is "centrist" and cites his support of the NHS as one of the reasons for this description. The NHS (as a concept) receives almost universal support in the UK from every point on the political spectrum. The implication that thre are less moderate Conservatives who are against nationalised health care in principle is ludicrous. Ferret 23:16, 16 June 2007 (EDT)

• It also suggests that Cameron's belief in global warming is a "centrist" policy and not traditionally Conservative. Again, not true. The Tory government was pushing for action on global warming as early as 1992. [4] Ferret 23:30, 16 June 2007 (EDT)

The UK is not England.

Economic difficulties, including a dispute over whether England should join the currency of the European Union, hurt the Conservative Party further.

I would like to point out to those who contribute to this site, that the United Kingdom should NOT be refered to as England.

England is only one of the four constituant nations which make up THE UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND. The others being the Kingdom of Scotland, the Principality of Wales, and the province of Northern Ireland.

If our American cousins are contributing to the site, could they please refer to the UK as the UK or Britain. Please only use England when refering to England as it demeans Scottish, Welsh, and Northern Irish British citizens. Alcatraz 15:16 19 April 2007 (BST)

High Unemployment

When Margaret Thatcher came to power unemployment was an election issue, standing at 500,000 plus. In what sense can increasing it to 3,000,000 plus be termed "turning it round" ? Ceorlacyng 18:08, 6 December 2007 (EST)

Euroskepticism

I don't like many Tory leaders either, but it's simply wrong to declare them all Pro-EUists. E.g., the Foreign Minister and the "Brexit Minister" are both strongly opposed to the EU and also Prime Minister May has always been very euroskeptic, despite her vote vor remaining. Her government consists of both Pro- and Anti-EUists and her party too (both factions are equally strong in the party). --Elessar (talk) 02:28, 16 August 2017 (EDT)

Theresa May is not "very euroskeptic" -- if she were, she would not have appointed into the government, or at least allowed herself to be influenced by, pro-EU people such as Hammond. If the UK gets a good deal, then I will re-add the line, but if the UK chooses to pursue a soft Brexit, despite pro-Brexit people occupying key government positions (showing how little power they have in the Conservative Party), we should keep the sentence as it is. What I have heard so far regarding Brexit talks is not comforting. --1990'sguy (talk) 10:42, 16 August 2017 (EDT)

Move/rename?

I couldn't find a modern, national party in the US by this name, but there were formerly several state parties which used this name. To reduce confusion with these and potentially the parties of other countries as well, might we want to move this page to something like "Conservative Party (United Kingdom)" or "Conservative Party (UK)"? --David B ^(TALK) 10:29, 25 April 2018 (EDT)

A move might be a good idea (I prefer "UK" to "United Kingdom"). Not only does NY still have a functioning Conservative Party (though I don't think it necessarily rivals the GOP), but Canada and Norway also have parties called the Conservative Party. I don't see how the UK Conservative Party is more notable than the Canadian Conservative Party to a predominantly U.S.-focused wiki. --1990'sguy (talk) 10:35, 25 April 2018 (EDT)