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User:Conservative, the [[Question Evolution! campaign]] provides a list of questions to be asked, e.g. in school. What good are these questions when they can be answered - and these answers can't be rebutted, because those who should provide such rebuttals prefer to use their time to alienate their fellow Christians? [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 09:11, 12 January 2012 (EST)
 
User:Conservative, the [[Question Evolution! campaign]] provides a list of questions to be asked, e.g. in school. What good are these questions when they can be answered - and these answers can't be rebutted, because those who should provide such rebuttals prefer to use their time to alienate their fellow Christians? [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 09:11, 12 January 2012 (EST)
 
:::AugustO, fellow Christians? You still haven't answered my questions from our last exchange or other questions I have. There have been too many heretical groups in history calling themselves Christians for me to automatically believe without due diligence that they are bona fide Christians. The fruit I have seen from my preliminary investigation is not encouraging. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 09:24, 12 January 2012 (EST)
 
:::AugustO, fellow Christians? You still haven't answered my questions from our last exchange or other questions I have. There have been too many heretical groups in history calling themselves Christians for me to automatically believe without due diligence that they are bona fide Christians. The fruit I have seen from my preliminary investigation is not encouraging. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 09:24, 12 January 2012 (EST)
:::: @user:Conservative: Concerning your first post here: I think I told you on the Community Portal, that AugustO's church does not marry homosexual couples. It is one of the things that is stated rather clearly on their German website...
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:::: @user:Conservative: Concerning your first post here: I think I told you on the Community Portal, that AugustO's church does not marry homosexual couples. It is one of the things that is stated rather clearly on their German website...--[[User:VPropp|VPropp]] 11:13, 12 January 2012 (EST)
 
::::::True, you told me and did not show me. My preliminary research definitely leans towards them embracing this practice although it is not absolutely conclusive. Of course, this could better be cleared up if AugustO simply answers my questions. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 09:48, 12 January 2012 (EST)
 
::::::True, you told me and did not show me. My preliminary research definitely leans towards them embracing this practice although it is not absolutely conclusive. Of course, this could better be cleared up if AugustO simply answers my questions. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 09:48, 12 January 2012 (EST)
 
*I doubt that there is anything I could write about me that would change your heart.
 
*I doubt that there is anything I could write about me that would change your heart.
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I don't see how the perceived decline of the EKKW has anything to do with the ''15 questions'' - how does the very existence of a church you hadn't heard of a month ago can influence your evidence? Please, stop obfuscating (a tactic often used by liberals), and try to support the [[Question Evolution! Campaign]]. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 10:44, 12 January 2012 (EST)
 
I don't see how the perceived decline of the EKKW has anything to do with the ''15 questions'' - how does the very existence of a church you hadn't heard of a month ago can influence your evidence? Please, stop obfuscating (a tactic often used by liberals), and try to support the [[Question Evolution! Campaign]]. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 10:44, 12 January 2012 (EST)
 
::I am just point out through the social science of history using church history in particular what happens when churches put on their liberal evobabble skiis and liberalism ideology goggles and [http://voxday.blogspot.com/2011/05/and-here-i-thought-slippery-slope-didnt.html start going down the slope] -  moral depravity and the condoning of the behavior of pretentious fraudulent shysters such as  User: RudrichBoucher. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 11:03, 12 January 2012 (EST)
 
::I am just point out through the social science of history using church history in particular what happens when churches put on their liberal evobabble skiis and liberalism ideology goggles and [http://voxday.blogspot.com/2011/05/and-here-i-thought-slippery-slope-didnt.html start going down the slope] -  moral depravity and the condoning of the behavior of pretentious fraudulent shysters such as  User: RudrichBoucher. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 11:03, 12 January 2012 (EST)
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::: I'm intrigued, the history of which churches have you looked at? The accusation of moral depravity was used during the Reformation quite often and on both sides. Yet Catholicism and reformed churches still flourish.--[[User:VPropp|VPropp]] 11:13, 12 January 2012 (EST)

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AugustO, I am sure the homosexual members of the Evangelical Church of Hesse Electorate-Waldeck that you belong to who were "married" in one of their "churches" are going to love the material you posted here. Liberals love error. By the way, what are your thoughts on the Conservapedia homosexuality article? Conservative 08:47, 12 January 2012 (EST)

Is there a reason you have deleted and then recreated this page without any of the preceding posts? It does seem rather arbitrary. Davidspencer 08:52, 12 January 2012 (EST)

User:Conservative, have you anything pertinent to contribute to the debate? Otherwise I just go to ignore your invectives. AugustO 08:59, 12 January 2012 (EST)

August), is your liberal Protestant denomination still declining in their membership? How is that church's embracing of Darwinist naturalist philosophy and liberalism working out for you guys? Any miracles happen in the last service you attended? "O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called" (1 Timothy 6:20) "holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; Avoid such men as these." (2 Timothy 3:5) Conservative 09:07, 12 January 2012 (EST)

User:Conservative, the Question Evolution! campaign provides a list of questions to be asked, e.g. in school. What good are these questions when they can be answered - and these answers can't be rebutted, because those who should provide such rebuttals prefer to use their time to alienate their fellow Christians? AugustO 09:11, 12 January 2012 (EST)

AugustO, fellow Christians? You still haven't answered my questions from our last exchange or other questions I have. There have been too many heretical groups in history calling themselves Christians for me to automatically believe without due diligence that they are bona fide Christians. The fruit I have seen from my preliminary investigation is not encouraging. Conservative 09:24, 12 January 2012 (EST)
@user:Conservative: Concerning your first post here: I think I told you on the Community Portal, that AugustO's church does not marry homosexual couples. It is one of the things that is stated rather clearly on their German website...--VPropp 11:13, 12 January 2012 (EST)
True, you told me and did not show me. My preliminary research definitely leans towards them embracing this practice although it is not absolutely conclusive. Of course, this could better be cleared up if AugustO simply answers my questions. Conservative 09:48, 12 January 2012 (EST)
  • I doubt that there is anything I could write about me that would change your heart.
  • The answers to your questions can be found in the internet, I think you will have more trust in your own research than in any of my statements.
  • You seem to have not much of a problem to condemn the 900,000 members of the EKKW (or the 23,000,000 members of the EKD) as heretical! What does more harm: to condemn and insult a fellow Christian - or to engage respectfully in a debate with a member of one of the many heretical groups in history calling themselves Christians.
  • All of this doesn't matter when it comes to the 15 questions for evolutionists. Really, I don't know how you want to witness to any of the hostile atheists when you can't keep your cool in this sheltered environment?

AugustO 09:45, 12 January 2012 (EST)

AugustO, have homosexuals been "married" inside of Evangelical Church of Hesse Electorate-Waldeck "churches"? It is an easy enough question for you to answer unless of course you want to hide something as liberals often want to do. Conservative 09:54, 12 January 2012 (EST)

Is this 15 questions for evolutionists or just simply 15 questions for AugustO? Adambro 09:55, 12 January 2012 (EST)

  • What has this to do with Debate: 15 questions for evolutionists? Is this a typical example of the tactic of diversion which is often used by liberals?
  • No "marriages" have been performed - but there may be congregations which have allowed "blessings".
AugustO 09:58, 12 January 2012 (EST)
Evobabbling, women "pastors" "blessing" homosexual "marriages", declining membership - the Evangelical Church of Hesse Electorate-Waldeck is on the slope. Of course, when you start flouting biblical authority and ignoring the large amount of evidence for the Bible, that's what happens. Conservative 10:23, 12 January 2012 (EST)

Thanks for your telediagnosis! Now, can we get to the debate at hand, or do you prefer to stick to personal attacks - at tactic often used by liberals? AugustO 10:26, 12 January 2012 (EST)

August, when you start presenting actual evidence instead of just-so stories and stop ignoring the large amount of evidence for the Bible and the effects of when a church does this, then we can start debating. Conservative 10:31, 12 January 2012 (EST)
August, by the way, what do you think of Conservapedia homosexuality article in terms of the factual evidence it presents? Conservative 10:35, 12 January 2012 (EST)

I don't see how the perceived decline of the EKKW has anything to do with the 15 questions - how does the very existence of a church you hadn't heard of a month ago can influence your evidence? Please, stop obfuscating (a tactic often used by liberals), and try to support the Question Evolution! Campaign. AugustO 10:44, 12 January 2012 (EST)

I am just point out through the social science of history using church history in particular what happens when churches put on their liberal evobabble skiis and liberalism ideology goggles and start going down the slope - moral depravity and the condoning of the behavior of pretentious fraudulent shysters such as User: RudrichBoucher. Conservative 11:03, 12 January 2012 (EST)
I'm intrigued, the history of which churches have you looked at? The accusation of moral depravity was used during the Reformation quite often and on both sides. Yet Catholicism and reformed churches still flourish.--VPropp 11:13, 12 January 2012 (EST)