On March 7, I have already started CP's presentation of Trump's allegations of wiretapping in the Barack Obama Controversies and Barack Hussein Obama articles. I do not object to a separate timeline, provided that we also have good prose coverage there. I believe that timelines fail to provide full context, and sometime editors can quibble in attaching dates to various events. Thanks, JDano (talk) 06:16, 9 March 2017 (EST)
- I'm anticipating this will be drawn out for months - with future revelations to come and gaps to be filled in. As more is uncovered, this timeline is intended to be a guidepost for giving context to other articles where a prose narrative will explore in depth.
- My biggest fear and concern at this point is to keep the fake news story "Russiagate" off this page entirely (hopefully) as it can be assumed a merging or confusing of the two by msm is their best strategy to neutralize the devastating impact this story will have once its full dimensions are known. RobSCIA vs Trump. Who's gonna win? 10:19, 9 March 2017 (EST)
- I agree that formulations like "Russiagate" (or even the -gate suffix to invite comparisons to Nixon) are not helpful. However, I suspect that antecedent events were cited to justify the warrant, and those should probably belong in the timeline. Also, there are two possibilities here: either the federal bureaucracy is doing this without Obama, or Obama personally directed it. I have not seen any evidence of his personal involvement (which is what Trump tweeted.)JDano (talk) 10:58, 9 March 2017 (EST)
- It's only in the rudimentary stages, what, four, five days? We're juxt laying out the broad context. This is much bigger, deeper, and far reaching than any allegations against Trump so far. And likely to have an impact on future legislation. This is an abuse of power scandal. It is already having an economic impact on Microsoft, Google, Samsung, Apple and others. RobSCIA vs Trump. Who's gonna win? 11:09, 9 March 2017 (EST)
- Let me add, in just the past 24 hours I',ve read 2 and 1 rsdio broadcast of gross distortions of fact in reporting on this breaking story ("the taping of phones of President Obama..." made it sound like Trump ordered wiretaps on Obama; another claimed websevers in the White House connected to two Russian banks, rather than in Trump Tower to obtain the warrant) I can only presume to be deliberate to mislead people. I want to get a handle on facts quickly. RobSCIA vs Trump. Who's gonna win? 11:55, 9 March 2017 (EST)
- I agree that formulations like "Russiagate" (or even the -gate suffix to invite comparisons to Nixon) are not helpful. However, I suspect that antecedent events were cited to justify the warrant, and those should probably belong in the timeline. Also, there are two possibilities here: either the federal bureaucracy is doing this without Obama, or Obama personally directed it. I have not seen any evidence of his personal involvement (which is what Trump tweeted.)JDano (talk) 10:58, 9 March 2017 (EST)