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clean up, typos fixed: preceeding → preceding

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→‎Current scholarly debate

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views of modern scholars

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typo corrected in the last two verses of Chapter 20

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"love me more?"

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John 21:24 has an ending phrase that is oddly almost a verbatim copy of 3 John 12

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John never used the name "Zebedee" anywhere in Chapters 1-20 of the Gospel of John. It is used in other Gospels to refer to James and John as "Zebedee's sons," but never by John to describe himself.

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→‎"son of John"?

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Much of John 21 overlaps with material in the synoptic Gospels, such as the miraculous catch of fish. But the Gospel of John is a unique work having very little genuine overlap with other Gospels

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→‎Implausible reference to "153": clarify

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Improbable dialog at John 21:3

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→‎Implausible reference to "153": In the rare instances where a specific quantity is provided in the New Testament, it is typically a prime number. The (non-prime) number "153" sticks out as unlike anything else, as though someone merely thoug

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→‎"son of John"?: At {{bibleref|Matthew|16|17}}, Peter is referenced as the son of "Jonah", which is more likely as "John" is nowhere in the Old Testament while "Jonah" is.

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another reason

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→‎Analogy to Mark ending: better

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28 not-used-elsewhere Greek words

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→‎Papyrus 66: which begin after a substantial gap and on a new unused page of the leaf, like notes on blank pages in the back of a book

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two more points

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Scholars misleadingly state that that chapter 21 is in the earliest manuscripts when, in fact, most of it is missing from the earliest one.

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This faith-inspiring, pro-life ending is diluted and obscured by the subsequent John chapter 21, which as shown below is unlikely to be authentic for multiple reasons

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→‎"son of John"?: John was a common name then (and now), and so it would be very odd to refer to someone as "son of John."

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→‎"son of John"?

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→‎Implausible use of "I": retitle section

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John humbly never referred to himself as "I", yet {{bibleref|John|21|25}} contains an uncharacteristic, hyperbolic "I suppose" that is at odds with the straightforward ending in John chapter 20.

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Seven disciples were in the fishing board, and yet {{bibleref|John|21|11}} states implausibly that Peter alone hauled the immense catch of 153 fish from the boat to the shore. There would be no reason for the others not to help, and this appears to be

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→‎Peter questioned Jesus about John?

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→‎Peter quesioned Jesus about John?

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Peter quesioned Jesus about John?

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John 21 uses the term "son of John" four times to describe Peter, but that expression does not appear anywhere else in the entire Bible. None of the other Gospels, the New Testament letters, or the rest of the Gospel of JOhn ever refe

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→‎Unusual reference to "153": In addition, there was no reason or time for counting the fish, which were far too many for the group to eat. Jesus had called the fishermen-disciples to breakfast, and it is implausible that they would have kept Jesu

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→‎Unusual reference to "153"

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→‎Unusual reference to "153": at {{biblref|John|21|11}}

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This ending contains an unusual reference to the large, specific number of 153, which is found nowhere else in the Gospel of John, as instead it refers to approximate round numbers as most authors would.

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{{bibleref|John|21|5}} quotes Jesus as addressing his own Apostles -- grown men -- as "little children," using a Greek term (παιδίον, Strong's G3813) that is different from the Greek term used appropriately earlier in the same Gospel when

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The use of "we" in John 21 is also uncharacteristic of John, lacking any clarity to it.

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→‎Analysis: In John chapter 21, which follows the above ending, there is an unusual use of "I" that is never used anywhere else by John.

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→‎Analysis

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analysis - a start

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→‎See also

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There are strong reasons to conclude that its authentic ending is at {{bibleref|John|20|31-31}} as follows