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Debate:Why do fundamentalists take mistranslations seriously? (view source)
Revision as of 07:13, September 3, 2012
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If I accept that the word translated as "virgin" really does refer to someone who has given birth, then I would say that the cause of any obstinate refusal to accept the actual translation is two-fold. First, that people see something which they know to be true, and we hold onto the only evidence we have been taught or have thought of. Since the only evidence people know is the mistranslation, they hold onto it. In this case, we know that she was a virgin for other reasons than the mistranslation seemed to give. My practical answer to this is to do what you suggest by (1) rethinking every pertinent thing using the corrected translation (deriving new outcomes) and by (2) knowing whether the previous pertinent outcomes (or facts) of the mistranslation are still correct (but using different words as evidence). Second, many people feel more pressure to conform with their families and friends than whatever the truth of a given situation is; this is destructive to us all in all things and not just here, but it serves here to clarify just why fundamentalists take this mistranslation seriously.
If I accept that the word translated as "virgin" really does refer to someone who has given birth, then I would say that the cause of any obstinate refusal to accept the actual translation is two-fold. First, that people see something which they know to be true, and we hold onto the only evidence we have been taught or have thought of. Since the only evidence people know is the mistranslation, they hold onto it. In this case, we know that she was a virgin for other reasons than the mistranslation seemed to give. My practical answer to this is to do what you suggest by (1) rethinking every pertinent thing using the corrected translation (deriving new outcomes) and by (2) knowing whether the previous pertinent outcomes (or facts) of the mistranslation are still correct (but using different words as evidence). Second, many people feel more pressure to conform with their families and friends than whatever the truth of a given situation is; this is destructive to us all in all things and not just here, but it serves here to clarify just why fundamentalists take this mistranslation seriously.
Remember: God knows the true cause for every true effect, even when we don't; God has even revealed much of His knowledge to us. Reliance on God will cause your sense of the truth to be refined as you wait on, ponder and know Him. [[User:GiLGiJ|GiLGiJ]] 18:03, 13 July 2012 (EDT)
Remember: God knows the true cause for every true effect, even when we don't; God has even revealed much of His knowledge to us. Reliance on God will cause your sense of the truth to be refined as you wait on, ponder and know Him. [[User:GiLGiJ|GiLGiJ]] 18:03, 13 July 2012 (EDT)
:Umm, I am a fundamentalist, and I don't think the words in the N.T. or O.T. mean virgin. This is one of those words that got translated wrong because of the Catholic Church's wrong teaching on the Virgin Mary. The O.T. word "almah" means divorced woman or widow, same with the N.T. word "parthenos". In the Old Testament the word for virgin is bethulah, so if Isaiah 7:14 wanted to refer to virgins, that's the word it should've used. Almah appears to be a variation of almanah meaning widow. Both almanah and bethulah are used in Leviticus 21:14 - "A widow <'almanah>, or a divorced woman <garash>, or profane <chalal>, or an harlot <zanah>, these shall he not take <laqach>: but he shall take <laqach> a virgin <b@thuwlah> of his own people <`am> to wife <'ishshah>." The Isaiah 7:14 prophecy is repeated in Matthew 1:23 and the word used is parthenos. But parthenos cannot mean virgin. As seen from a reading of 1 Corinthians 7, the correct interpretation is widow. In fact, the incorrect reading of 1 Corinthians 7 led to the Catholic belief on priestly celibacy. As far as I'm concerned, Mary was a widow when she married Joseph, and a number of Jesus' siblings may have come from her other marriage. --[[User:Jzyehoshua|Joshua Zambrano]] 03:13, 3 September 2012 (EDT)