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Remember: God knows the true cause for every true effect, even when we don't; God has even revealed much of His knowledge to us.  Reliance on God will cause your sense of the truth to be refined as you wait on, ponder and know Him. [[User:GiLGiJ|GiLGiJ]] 18:03, 13 July 2012 (EDT)
 
Remember: God knows the true cause for every true effect, even when we don't; God has even revealed much of His knowledge to us.  Reliance on God will cause your sense of the truth to be refined as you wait on, ponder and know Him. [[User:GiLGiJ|GiLGiJ]] 18:03, 13 July 2012 (EDT)
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:Umm, I am a fundamentalist, and I don't think the words in the N.T. or O.T. mean virgin. This is one of those words that got translated wrong because of the Catholic Church's wrong teaching on the Virgin Mary. The O.T. word "almah" means divorced woman or widow, same with the N.T. word "parthenos". In the Old Testament the word for virgin is bethulah, so if Isaiah 7:14 wanted to refer to virgins, that's the word it should've used. Almah appears to be a variation of almanah meaning widow. Both almanah and bethulah are used in Leviticus 21:14 - "A widow <'almanah>, or a divorced woman <garash>, or profane <chalal>, or an harlot <zanah>, these shall he not take <laqach>: but he shall take <laqach> a virgin <b@thuwlah> of his own people <`am> to wife <'ishshah>." The Isaiah 7:14 prophecy is repeated in Matthew 1:23 and the word used is parthenos. But parthenos cannot mean virgin. As seen from a reading of 1 Corinthians 7, the correct interpretation is widow. In fact, the incorrect reading of 1 Corinthians 7 led to the Catholic belief on priestly celibacy. As far as I'm concerned, Mary was a widow when she married Joseph, and a number of Jesus' siblings may have come from her other marriage. --[[User:Jzyehoshua|Joshua Zambrano]] 03:13, 3 September 2012 (EDT)
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:Umm, I am a fundamentalist, and I don't think the words in the N.T. or O.T. mean virgin. This is one of those words that got translated wrong because of the Catholic Church's wrong teaching on the Virgin Mary. The O.T. word "almah" means divorced woman or widow, same with the N.T. word "parthenos". In the Old Testament the word for virgin is bethulah, so if Isaiah 7:14 wanted to refer to virgins, that's the word it should've used. Almah appears to be a variation of almanah meaning widow. Both almanah and bethulah are used in Leviticus 21:14 - "A widow <'almanah>, or a divorced woman <garash>, or profane <chalal>, or an harlot <zanah>, these shall he not take <laqach>: but he shall take <laqach> a virgin <bathuwlah> of his own people <`am> to wife <'ishshah>." The Isaiah 7:14 prophecy is repeated in Matthew 1:23 and the word used is parthenos. But parthenos cannot mean virgin. As seen from a reading of 1 Corinthians 7, the correct interpretation is widow. In fact, the incorrect reading of 1 Corinthians 7 led to the Catholic belief on priestly celibacy. As far as I'm concerned, Mary was a widow when she married Joseph, and a number of Jesus' siblings may have come from her other marriage. --[[User:Jzyehoshua|Joshua Zambrano]] 03:13, 3 September 2012 (EDT)
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