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→Definition STILL needed: the long view
::::My view is that [[Fascism]] and [[Communism]] are both [[Totalitarian]]. The battle between the two about 'right' and 'left' is but a [[smokescreen]]. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 15:54, 11 April 2007 (EDT)
::::My view is that [[Fascism]] and [[Communism]] are both [[Totalitarian]]. The battle between the two about 'right' and 'left' is but a [[smokescreen]]. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 15:54, 11 April 2007 (EDT)
:::::This is turning into a fruitful discussion. I think Church/State issues originally defined the spectrum, but it was redefined several times over the decades. American founding fathers were "leftist" in this regard, in not cowtowing to the Church of England and Constitutionally rejecting a titled nobility. Conservative [[Tories]] who were loyal to Crown, like [[Benedict Arnold]], founded that Tory colony of Canada. Then that commie symp [[FDR]] made an alliance with that Tory Churchill which true American "leftists", i.e. true to the principals of the founding fathers, opposed. Finally that Tory Thatcher laid a rose on that classical liberal economic thinker, Ronald Reagan's coffin, signifying true American liberals loyal to the principals of the founders have finally made peace with anti-American Tories and traitors who once sought to destroy the Union. My, how far we've come. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 16:25, 11 April 2007 (EDT)