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'''Talk.origins''' was a bot-moderated [[usenet]] group with a focus on the [[creation]] vs. [[evolution]] debate. Like the evolutionist website, [[EvoWiki]], it is now archived. Recently, Talk.Origins archive has lost a significant amount of its web traffic.<ref>[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/09/talkorigins-talk-is-cheap-and.html TalkOrigins: Talk is cheap and evolutionist propaganda is stale and boring]</ref><ref>[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/09/did-attempt-to-revive-evowiki-fail-is.html Did an attempt to revive EvoWiki's web traffic fail? Is Google Panda mauling EvoWiki, Talk.Origins and atheist websites?]</ref>
Commenting on the website's loss of web traffic, a supporter of [[Creation Ministries International]]'s [[Question evolution! campaign]] quipped:
{{cquote|Stored under the right conditions, wine tastes better with the passage of time. Apparently, [[Theory of Evolution and Cases of Fraud, Hoaxes and Speculation|evolutionary speculation]] and evolutionary propaganda do not age well in the information age.<ref>[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/09/talkorigins-talk-is-cheap-and.html TalkOrigins: Talk is cheap and evolutionist propaganda is stale and boring]</ref>}}
[[Internet atheism]] and internet evolutionism have experienced significant declines in web visitors in recent years.<ref>[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/09/decline-of-internet-atheism-articles.html Decline of internet atheism and evolutionism articles]</ref> In addition, [[global atheism]] and agnosticism are losing adherents at present while [[global Christianity]] and biblical [[creationism]] are experiencing significant growth.
Creators of Talk.Origin articles did not necessarily have scientific credentials, nor was their work peer reviewed. It is used by promoters of [[evolution|evolutionary pseudoscience]] to advocate their antiquated religion. Michael Ruse, evolutionist science philosopher admitted, “Evolution is a religion. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of evolution still today.”<ref>[http://creation.com/15-questions 15 questions for evolutionists]</ref>
== Web traffic of Talk.orgins archive ==
Conpete: TalkOrigins web traffic from 7/2011 to 7/2012:
[[File:Talkoriginsorg uv.png|center|700px]]
Alexa: TalkOrigins:
[[File:TalkOrigins alexa.png|center|650px]]
== Deceptive charter ==
The Talk.Origins charter <ref>http://www.ediacara.org/~to/charter.html</ref> said that moderation would be used to block certain cross-posted messages. The justification for this policy was that readers of other newsgroups may not want to read evolution-related messages. The charter said that the moderation will cease after six months, unless there is a public vote to maintain the moderation. Contrary to this provision, the moderation continued for over ten years with no vote. The moderation continued because the evolutionists in the group want to maintain the ability to block messages, although they say on their own page it is to prevent "excessive cross-posting."<ref>http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/welcome.html</ref> They claimed "the Talk.Origins Archive existed to provide mainstream scientific responses to the frequently asked questions and frequently rebutted assertions that appear in talk.origins."
==Criticisms of Talk Origins Archive ==
Creationists have a number of criticisms of the Talk.origins archive and a number of them can be found at the [[TrueOrigin|True.Origin Archive]].<ref>http://www.trueorigin.org/</ref> [[CreationWiki]] has a large amount of material asserting that the Talk.origins Archive material is errant. <ref>http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/feedback/jul06.html</ref>
==See also==
*[[TrueOrigin]]
== Websites opposing TalkOrigins and other criticisms of Talk.Origins ==
*[http://www.trueorigin.org/to_deception.asp TrueOrigins.org]
*[http://www.trueorigin.org/to_deception.asp Talk.Origins: Deception by Omission]
*[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/09/talkorigins-talk-is-cheap-and.html Talk is cheap and evolutionist propaganda is stale and boring]
==External Links==
*[http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/topics talk.origins] via Google Groups
*[http://www.talkorigins.org TalkOrigins Archive] website
==References==
<references/>
[[category:evolution]]
[[category:websites]]
TalkOrigins Archive (view source)
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'''Talk.origins''' was a bot-moderated [[usenet]] group with a focus on the [[creation]] vs. [[evolution]] debate. Like the evolutionist website, [[EvoWiki]], it is now archived. Recently, Talk.Origins archive has lost a significant amount of its web traffic.<ref>[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/09/talkorigins-talk-is-cheap-and.html TalkOrigins: Talk is cheap and evolutionist propaganda is stale and boring]</ref><ref>[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/09/did-attempt-to-revive-evowiki-fail-is.html Did an attempt to revive EvoWiki's web traffic fail? Is Google Panda mauling EvoWiki, Talk.Origins and atheist websites?]</ref>
Commenting on the website's loss of web traffic, a supporter of [[Creation Ministries International]]'s [[Question evolution! campaign]] quipped:
{{cquote|Stored under the right conditions, wine tastes better with the passage of time. Apparently, [[Theory of Evolution and Cases of Fraud, Hoaxes and Speculation|evolutionary speculation]] and evolutionary propaganda do not age well in the information age.<ref>[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/09/talkorigins-talk-is-cheap-and.html TalkOrigins: Talk is cheap and evolutionist propaganda is stale and boring]</ref>}}
[[Internet atheism]] and internet evolutionism have experienced significant declines in web visitors in recent years.<ref>[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/09/decline-of-internet-atheism-articles.html Decline of internet atheism and evolutionism articles]</ref> In addition, [[global atheism]] and agnosticism are losing adherents at present while [[global Christianity]] and biblical [[creationism]] are experiencing significant growth.
Creators of Talk.Origin articles did not necessarily have scientific credentials, nor was their work peer reviewed. It is used by promoters of [[evolution|evolutionary pseudoscience]] to advocate their antiquated religion. Michael Ruse, evolutionist science philosopher admitted, “Evolution is a religion. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of evolution still today.”<ref>[http://creation.com/15-questions 15 questions for evolutionists]</ref>
== Web traffic of Talk.orgins archive ==
Conpete: TalkOrigins web traffic from 7/2011 to 7/2012:
[[File:Talkoriginsorg uv.png|center|700px]]
Alexa: TalkOrigins:
[[File:TalkOrigins alexa.png|center|650px]]
== Deceptive charter ==
The Talk.Origins charter <ref>http://www.ediacara.org/~to/charter.html</ref> said that moderation would be used to block certain cross-posted messages. The justification for this policy was that readers of other newsgroups may not want to read evolution-related messages. The charter said that the moderation will cease after six months, unless there is a public vote to maintain the moderation. Contrary to this provision, the moderation continued for over ten years with no vote. The moderation continued because the evolutionists in the group want to maintain the ability to block messages, although they say on their own page it is to prevent "excessive cross-posting."<ref>http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/welcome.html</ref> They claimed "the Talk.Origins Archive existed to provide mainstream scientific responses to the frequently asked questions and frequently rebutted assertions that appear in talk.origins."
==Criticisms of Talk Origins Archive ==
Creationists have a number of criticisms of the Talk.origins archive and a number of them can be found at the [[TrueOrigin|True.Origin Archive]].<ref>http://www.trueorigin.org/</ref> [[CreationWiki]] has a large amount of material asserting that the Talk.origins Archive material is errant. <ref>http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/feedback/jul06.html</ref>
==See also==
*[[TrueOrigin]]
== Websites opposing TalkOrigins and other criticisms of Talk.Origins ==
*[http://www.trueorigin.org/to_deception.asp TrueOrigins.org]
*[http://www.trueorigin.org/to_deception.asp Talk.Origins: Deception by Omission]
*[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/09/talkorigins-talk-is-cheap-and.html Talk is cheap and evolutionist propaganda is stale and boring]
==External Links==
*[http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/topics talk.origins] via Google Groups
*[http://www.talkorigins.org TalkOrigins Archive] website
==References==
<references/>
[[category:evolution]]
[[category:websites]]