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Aschlafly, quick question, please answer: who is speaking this sentence - is it a part of Christ's speach? CBP's quotation marks would indicate this.... And please, have a look at my comments above. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 16:55, 22 September 2012 (EDT)
 
Aschlafly, quick question, please answer: who is speaking this sentence - is it a part of Christ's speach? CBP's quotation marks would indicate this.... And please, have a look at my comments above. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 16:55, 22 September 2012 (EDT)
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:Here are my clarifications -<br />
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:(a) The Vulgate, one of the earliest Bibles, used "mundum", which is consistently translated as "the world". I guess my statement was unclear - sorry about that. <br />
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:(b) Strongs doesn't provide "us". Translating it as "us" is not translating; it is editorializing.<br />
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:(c) If you have 100 people say the following aloud..."For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son" and "For God so loved us that Have gave His only begotten Son", I bet 90+ would think the first sounds better.<br />
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:(d) God gave His Son for everyone. Not "us". I would argue that "us" builds a wall against non-Christians.<br />
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:(e) The reason you gave when you changed it was to avoid "false environmentalist overtones".<br />
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:So, the question now...the [[best of the public]] thinks this translation is wrong. How do we go about changing it back? [[User:PeterRyan|PeterRyan]] 17:08, 22 September 2012 (EDT)
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