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→‎Strange change of perspective: "For God so loved '''''you''''' that He gave His only Son" is obviously a more effective statement, and Jesus surely made the most effective statement possible.
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:::::This is a gospel, not an epistle where  such a statement could be expected.  
 
:::::This is a gospel, not an epistle where  such a statement could be expected.  
 
:::::And the translation is especially bad when reading John 3:11-12: it sounds as only Nicodemus is addressed.  Really, you should take a look at the context when you start to "translate"! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 23:47, 22 September 2012 (EDT)
 
:::::And the translation is especially bad when reading John 3:11-12: it sounds as only Nicodemus is addressed.  Really, you should take a look at the context when you start to "translate"! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 23:47, 22 September 2012 (EDT)
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::::::The "you" works even though Nicodemus is the audience.  The remainder of [[#3:16|John 3:16]] makes clear that the "you" is broader than merely Nicodemus.
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::::::The bottom line is this:  "For God so loved '''''you''''' that He gave His only Son" is obviously a more effective statement, and [[Jesus]] surely made the most effective statement possible.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 01:20, 23 September 2012 (EDT)
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