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Debate:What is the relationship between religion and the human tendency to kill each other? (view source)
Revision as of 18:52, December 6, 2012
, 18:52, December 6, 2012→Who kills the most?: Defence of atheism
Completely agreed! Look at atheistic countries like China, Russia, North Korea, and Cuba. These are not bastions of democracy, they are renowned for some of the worst human rights abuses. America was started by William Penn in 1680 as a Christian/Quaker government based on the Bible. The foundations of modern Democracy are based on the Bible specifically, not religion in general. --[[User:Jzyehoshua|Jzyehoshua]] 17:19, 20 July 2012 (EDT)
Completely agreed! Look at atheistic countries like China, Russia, North Korea, and Cuba. These are not bastions of democracy, they are renowned for some of the worst human rights abuses. America was started by William Penn in 1680 as a Christian/Quaker government based on the Bible. The foundations of modern Democracy are based on the Bible specifically, not religion in general. --[[User:Jzyehoshua|Jzyehoshua]] 17:19, 20 July 2012 (EDT)
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This argument ignores hitlers religious (catholic) beliefs, and those of the German Nazi party. Also, it mistakes causality. Atheism was enforced by Comunist parties to stop political dissent; communism was not motivated by atheistic world views. Also, an Atheistic worldview is very often a democratic one - it is difficult to simultaneously entertain a materialist worldview and the philosophy that one human is inherently more important than another. Humanism in particular is very fond of democracy, as is a scientific worldview. Also, the claim that democracy is a Christian value is a flawed one. Christianity supports everything from theocracy through monarchy to socialism. Look for example at Scandinavia - quite an atheistic area - is also quite democratic. Also, this argument is looking only at Christianity (common among Christians). Islamic nations are also often un-democratic (not dictatorial). Finally, it is irrelevant to bring atheism into this discussion as it is a disscussion of religion and violence, not atheism and violence.