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| | ::There isn't anything supernatural or other accpect of it which can be realted to religion in it, it is only way of describing someone, and mabye describing youself. --[[User:Nabroon|Nabroon]] 05:52, 5 March 2008 (EST) | | ::There isn't anything supernatural or other accpect of it which can be realted to religion in it, it is only way of describing someone, and mabye describing youself. --[[User:Nabroon|Nabroon]] 05:52, 5 March 2008 (EST) |
| | ::: You can call humanism a religion because it is. Your definition of "religion" is a humanistic one. Try reading [[religion]]. Humanism includes the ''belief'' that there is no god. That is, humanism has beliefs also. And Christianity has very little if anything in the way of necessary traditions. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 06:57, 5 March 2008 (EST) | | ::: You can call humanism a religion because it is. Your definition of "religion" is a humanistic one. Try reading [[religion]]. Humanism includes the ''belief'' that there is no god. That is, humanism has beliefs also. And Christianity has very little if anything in the way of necessary traditions. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 06:57, 5 March 2008 (EST) |
| | + | ::::Humanism has no beliefs as they could be overruled by contrary objective evidence. The fact that the evidence has not been supplied is one of the reasons I do not follow a religious belief. |
| | :::You go to church doesn't you? :)--[[User:Nabroon|Nabroon]] 09:14, 5 March 2008 (EST) | | :::You go to church doesn't you? :)--[[User:Nabroon|Nabroon]] 09:14, 5 March 2008 (EST) |
| | :::: I don't go to church out of tradition, and it's not strictly ''necessary'' to go to church to be a Christian. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:14, 5 March 2008 (EST) | | :::: I don't go to church out of tradition, and it's not strictly ''necessary'' to go to church to be a Christian. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:14, 5 March 2008 (EST) |
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| | Of course we would. Not all conflicts are really about religion. Oh, there may be some rhetoric about “God | | Of course we would. Not all conflicts are really about religion. Oh, there may be some rhetoric about “God |
| | being on our side” and all that, but most conflicts have been over territory, and the control of resources. | | being on our side” and all that, but most conflicts have been over territory, and the control of resources. |
| − | | + | :Yes but would there be less? |
| | Well of course people would still kill each other, however a lot of killing would not have happened and there would be less conflict today. The crusades, purely religious motives. The Northern Ireland situation was caused by politics, however if there was no religion, then there would be no labels by which the two sides could remain two sides, and the whole conflict would now be over. [[Bolly Ottihw|Bolly Ottihw]] 18:20, 20 April 2007 | | Well of course people would still kill each other, however a lot of killing would not have happened and there would be less conflict today. The crusades, purely religious motives. The Northern Ireland situation was caused by politics, however if there was no religion, then there would be no labels by which the two sides could remain two sides, and the whole conflict would now be over. [[Bolly Ottihw|Bolly Ottihw]] 18:20, 20 April 2007 |
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| | I think we would've found a reason to kill each other. But the reality is that now, conservative americans put the faith of the people as an excuse to get what they want. | | I think we would've found a reason to kill each other. But the reality is that now, conservative americans put the faith of the people as an excuse to get what they want. |
| | + | ::Exactly. Religion isn't only a motivation - in some cases it is an excuse. |
| | ===Some other reasons=== | | ===Some other reasons=== |
| | Well, there's money, pride, oil... [[User:Totnesmartin|Totnesmartin]] 16:58, 16 May 2007 (EDT) | | Well, there's money, pride, oil... [[User:Totnesmartin|Totnesmartin]] 16:58, 16 May 2007 (EDT) |