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The only way you could approach that number would be to factor in all the deaths created by WWII in China and the USSR, all the deaths caused by sectarian violence between Chinese nationalists, and all the deaths caused by incidental famines and mismanagement of communist regimes. While there were undoubtedly deaths as a result of Leninist (and later Stalinist) ideology (which many would argue is not Marxist since it does not follow the ideal set out by Marx), you cannot simply say "X number of people died under communist governments, therefore they are bad." If that were the case you could take the millions killed in the innumerable wars in Europe, any number of the millions killed by Islam, the millions killed by America in its expansion into North America, and then declare that all Christian nations are bad because their death toll rises into the billions. The logic of these numbers is ridiculous. [[User:EricIbar|EricIbar]] 16:04, 31 January 2013 (EST)

The only way you could approach that number would be to factor in all the deaths created by WWII in China and the USSR, all the deaths caused by sectarian violence between Chinese nationalists, and all the deaths caused by incidental famines and mismanagement of communist regimes. While there were undoubtedly deaths as a result of Leninist (and later Stalinist) ideology (which many would argue is not Marxist since it does not follow the ideal set out by Marx), you cannot simply say "X number of people died under communist governments, therefore they are bad." If that were the case you could take the millions killed in the innumerable wars in Europe, any number of the millions killed by Islam, the millions killed by America in its expansion into North America, and then declare that all Christian nations are bad because their death toll rises into the billions. The logic of these numbers is ridiculous. [[User:EricIbar|EricIbar]] 16:04, 31 January 2013 (EST)

:*''there were undoubtedly deaths as a result of Leninist (and later Stalinist) ideology (which '''many''' would argue is not Marxist since it does not follow the ideal set out by Marx);''

:*''there were undoubtedly deaths as a result of Leninist (and later Stalinist) ideology (which '''many''' would argue is not Marxist since it does not follow the ideal set out by Marx);''

::'''''Many?''''' How many of the "many" who argued that survived Lenin and Stalin?  [[User:OscarO|OscarO]] 18:33, 31 January 2013 (EST)

::'''''Many?''''' How many of the "many" who argued that Lenin and Stalin do not follow the ideal set out by Marx survived Lenin and Stalin?  [[User:OscarO|OscarO]] 18:33, 31 January 2013 (EST)