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Talk:Essay:Greatest Conservative TV Shows (view source)
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:The views of a creator of a show are almost irrelevant. The point is what the show became, and your comments do not fully address the reasons given for its inclusion.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:56, 21 October 2011 (EDT)
:The views of a creator of a show are almost irrelevant. The point is what the show became, and your comments do not fully address the reasons given for its inclusion.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:56, 21 October 2011 (EDT)
::Overall, the show may not have been conservative, but "created to protest Vietnam"? Uh, no - One of its most famous episodes, "The City on the Edge of Forever", by having uber-pacifism take hold in the 30s and keep us out of WWII long enough for the Nazis to win, effectively accused the protestors of treason ([http://www.depauw.edu/SFs/backissues/62/franklin62art.htm] and don't take my word for it: one of the producers was asked years later if that was deliberate and said that "of course" it was).--[[User:ArchModerate|ArchModerate]] 15:46, 25 March 2013 (EDT)
==7th Heaven==
==7th Heaven==
I know this issue has been discussed before, but by no stretch of the imagination is Star Trek a conservative show. Star Trek fell just short of being propaganda for a progressive secular humanist agenda. Which makes sense considering the show's creator was a progressive atheist secular humanist, and his personal beliefs were woven into the very fabric of the show. Would a conservative show have a future where the United States no longer exists as a sovereign nation but instead is part of a one world government? And would a conservative have that one world government in turn be a socialist government that was an eager participant in a United Nations style Federation of Planets? Would a conservative place the HQ for the Federation in San Francisco!? Would a conservative write a show where religion (if portrayed at all) was shown in a negative light? Do bible believing Christians believe in Vulcans? The list goes on and on. From the show's advocacy of socialism and multiculturalism to Captain Kirk's "relaxed" sexual morality. So unless any compelling evidence to the contrary is presented, I'll remove it from the list. --[[User:DonnyC|DonnyC]] 16:44, 14 January 2013 (EST)
I know this issue has been discussed before, but by no stretch of the imagination is Star Trek a conservative show. Star Trek fell just short of being propaganda for a progressive secular humanist agenda. Which makes sense considering the show's creator was a progressive atheist secular humanist, and his personal beliefs were woven into the very fabric of the show. Would a conservative show have a future where the United States no longer exists as a sovereign nation but instead is part of a one world government? And would a conservative have that one world government in turn be a socialist government that was an eager participant in a United Nations style Federation of Planets? Would a conservative place the HQ for the Federation in San Francisco!? Would a conservative write a show where religion (if portrayed at all) was shown in a negative light? Do bible believing Christians believe in Vulcans? The list goes on and on. From the show's advocacy of socialism and multiculturalism to Captain Kirk's "relaxed" sexual morality. So unless any compelling evidence to the contrary is presented, I'll remove it from the list. --[[User:DonnyC|DonnyC]] 16:44, 14 January 2013 (EST)
:Certainly true of the Original Series (and the Next Generation was even worse), but Deep Space 9, made after the militant atheist creator had died, portrays religion (specifically the Bajoran one) in a clearly positive light.--[[User:ArchModerate|ArchModerate]] 15:46, 25 March 2013 (EDT)