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::*Third: Even if we add in our mind ''of God'' each time we hear Jesus Christ using the word ''son'', that's not what he said. You are editing, interpreting, not translating!
::*Third: Even if we add in our mind ''of God'' each time we hear Jesus Christ using the word ''son'', that's not what he said. You are editing, interpreting, not translating!
::--[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 16:45, 22 June 2014 (EDT)
::--[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 16:45, 22 June 2014 (EDT)
''υἱὸς means "Son of God" in this context (and in John's usage in his Epistle)''
That seems to be wrong, too: it's not about John's usage, it is about how Jesus Christ used the phrase. And in the gospel, he described himself time and time again as ''the son of man'' and not as ''the Son'', and especially not as ''the Son of God''. In the epistles, John makes it clear that He is the Son of God, and he does so not by using the word υἱὸς its own. As Jesus Christ uses the word, υἱὸς means son, descendant. You are trying to crowbar a later insight in this word: that's bad translating - and bad theology. --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 17:11, 22 June 2014 (EDT)